Anodizing

JohnnyP636 said:
I have black anodizing done all the time locally for billet motorcycle parts, when I've mixed parts made of 6061 or 7075 the colors still match as long as they are done in the same anodizing batch. The only problem I ever had was with different batches of anodize, and that is what I believe your problem is here. I assume that their uppers and lowers were not anodized in the same batch of anodizing
In my experience with anodize as the chemicals get old, they don't produce as black of a anodize as when they are fresh so the parts start to come out a little dull more on the gunmetal grey side not so dark black
So since experiencing that I have always tried to bring my parts to them when they have just refreshed their dyes so I get a really dark black finish, and always try to have all the parts for one job done in one batch.

Another factor is the type of finish that was used on the aluminum prior to anodizing, personally I like a glossy look so I polish the parts prior to anodizing. Some of my customers like a matt or flat finish so for that I use some type of media blasting or tumble finish prior to anodize and that will change the sheen on the anodize. So there could also be changes in the media and the finish of the aluminum prior to anodizing, thing wear out or get changed to another brand or supplier

For example here are parts some are 6061 some are new some were old some were even stripped and re anodized another color
All are pretty much the same color except for one part in the middle left, that is because the customer wanted a flat finish so I media blasted that part prior to anodizing and it came out flat
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Are those regular anodized or Hardcoat anodized? Regular anodizing in black is generally very consistent, but hardcoat has substantially more material growth, and therefore visuals can vary dramatically.
 
Blastattack said:
Are those regular anodized or Hardcoat anodized? Regular anodizing in black is generally very consistent, but hardcoat has substantially more material growth, and therefore visuals can vary dramatically.
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Hard Anodizing that particular industrial anodize company I used only does hard black, colors I use someone else

My customers can be picky, here is an example most of this guys parts were already black anodized, but he wanted them all re done to match
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As long as I have them done the same way in the same batch it doesn't matter if they were old new, different aluminum, they come out pretty consistent
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I have a few billet upper/lower Ar15's, the ones bought in a matching set all match %100. The only ones that dont match are mixed brand of upper and lower. So I would also be pissed if I bought a upper/lower set and they didnt match. Not at the price I know you guys are paying for these
 
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JohnnyP636 said:
Hard Anodizing that particular industrial anodize company I used only does hard black, colors I use someone else

My customers can be picky, here is an example most of this guys parts were already black anodized, but he wanted them all re done to match

As long as I have them done the same way in the same batch it doesn't matter if they were old new, different aluminum, they come out pretty consistent


I have a few billet upper/lower Ar15's, the ones bought in a matching set all match %100. The only ones that dont match are mixed brand of upper and lower. So I would also be pissed if I bought a upper/lower set and they didnt match. Not at the price I know you guys are paying for these
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That's nice anodizing. Looks good.
 
JohnnyP636 said:
I have a few billet upper/lower Ar15's, the ones bought in a matching set all match %100. The only ones that dont match are mixed brand of upper and lower. So I would also be pissed if I bought a upper/lower set and they didnt match. Not at the price I know you guys are paying for these
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unfortunately the manufacturer doesn't seem to care or they would have dealt with it long before now.
 
QC fail. Saying that "it will work fine" is a total cop out. At 400% of the cost of AR forgings, they better damn well be perfect. You would never see BCM sell something janky like that!
 
Brian46 said:
unfortunately the manufacturer doesn't seem to care or they would have dealt with it long before now.
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It probably never occurred to you that you may have pissed both RDSC ad ATRS off with tone, demands and unwillingness to work with them? Hence neither now wasting their time continuing on a pointless exchange of correspondence? Both companies were more than willing to help you, yet you repeatedly refused to help yourself from the get go. I am certain that the offers presented by both RDSC and ATRS still stand today, yet you have led all to believe you are selling the set and will not wait for a matched set. The longer you hold out the longer it will be for any sort of resolution, why not try working WITH these guys and let them make you happy? This instant gratification fixation you have is not working well for you it seems.
 
Last correspondence with RDSC was they have no replacement set to exchange it with and if I were to send it in, there is no timeline for when I would get a matching set back. I was unwilling to accept a cerakoted set as a fix because I wanted and paid for an anodized set.

ATRS stopped communicating after I oiled the set per their instruction and sent the pics already posted here showing there is still a very large color/finish difference between the upper and lower.

Obviously you are just trying to get this thread locked on behalf of one or both of the retailers. Both the retailer and manufacturer have my contact info and know there is a problem with the quality of finish on the product I was sold. ATRS even has a retailer for their products in my area now.
 
angryeyebrows said:
Brian, just sell your set and preorder another. You’ll make a profit on it and you can pay for the next set in full. Seems like the best option at this point.
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waiting over half a year for something that may never show up or be any closer of a match after I sell mine is not the best option.
 
Brian46 said:
waiting over half a year for something that may never show up or be any closer of a match after I sell mine is not the best option.
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Where do you get the impression that it will never show up? I assume you are alluding to a pending ban, that may or may not affect this particular firearm. ATRS has already stated that as far as they are concerned, they will deliver the products to customers who have ordered them, regardless of a ban. It’s up to you to comply.
 
angryeyebrows said:
Where do you get the impression that it will never show up? I assume you are alluding to a pending ban, that may or may not affect this particular firearm. ATRS has already stated that as far as they are concerned, they will deliver the products to customers who have ordered them, regardless of a ban. It’s up to you to comply.
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Blair has already stated any list of rifles to be prohibited or OIC ban will also prohibit the sale of any of the effected rifles immediately to prevent panic buys. I don't see ATRS completing manufacturing and sales after the fact, I would be happy to be proven wrong, but I see the risk being too great for a licensed business that has taken their whole life to build or in some stores cases, multiple generations to build.
 
vultr said:
Hardly. But since I picked up a set this week and ETA is 1 - 2 months (not a year and a half) I thought it might be of interest if you were looking to flip.
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Good to know, but as they told me when I brought this to their attention, I was told all sets they are getting are spoken for so they could not exchange the set with a matching one and that if I were to send it back to them, there is no eta for a fix/replacement to get back to me.
 
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