Anschutz Disappointment

[yyj200]

I purchased a CZ Varmint MTR .22 LR a little while ago and added a few things to it. I was quite pleased with the results. I figured as I was getting on, I would treat myself to an Anschutz, before my dirt nap. I chose a 1710 Competition with the 5119 trigger and 20 inch stainless barrel and MDT ACC chassis. It seems to shoot well, but not too much if at all better than the CZ. My big disappointment comes with the FTEs stacking up and some jams on loading and the magazine has its problems also. I've shot about 4 bricks out of the CZ and did not have one faulty operation everything was smooth and slick. After 80 shots in the Anschutz I've had at least a dozen FTEs, 4 bullets jam upon entry and believe it or not a cartridge reverse direction in the magazine causing a mag jam.
If I get aggressive and deliberate the Anschutz will eject, but not impressively. Loading has to be slow and cautious. What a joke for a $3700 firearm. I can't see why there is such a big fuss and fan base for this firearm.

 

[m1008]

Common issue if you did a little research, same with 1761 problems. The Fortner is a much better rifle if your going to be paying close to 4k.

 

[mineguy]

I picked up a 1710 HB ES this fall thinking it would be awesome. The stock had oil splotches on it which for a $2400 firearm was incredibly disappointed in. Have had to refinish the stock. Have not had the FTE issue and it shoots well enough but I understand your frustration. The stock soured me a bit to start. But for the money one would and should expect better.
I have a CZ 455 Canadian that I put an IBI barrel on and slipped it into a KRG Bravo chassis. So the CZ was $700, the chassis and the barrel each about that. For $2100 I have a rifle that is very impressive. And the CZ just goes. Not an issue at all.
Would not buy another Anschutz but will hang on to the 1710.

 

[Grantmac]

Known issues and why very few people run Anschutz for PRS.

Maybe their new PRS 1761 will fix the issues.

 

[Mystic Precision]

I am enjoying an Annie 54 clone so I expect the solutions are similar. Extractor claws are not fitted properly. Mag lips are not positioned properly.

Mine does need a 'snap' on the bolt backstroke to get ejection to be vigourous but it does work

Once done, my clone runs like a dream and feeding is both very smooth and fast. Accuracy is also fantastic all the way out to 400m+.

I suspect a bit of TLC is required to get yours to run properly. Pity, it was not done at the factory as well as it should be.

Jerry

 

[yyj200]

I agree, the CZ for the money has nice wood, shoots well and is reliable. I just put a tuner and trigger spring and it’s very competitive.

 

[Jahnj0584]

I am enjoying an Annie 54 clone so I expect the solutions are similar. Extractor claws are not fitted properly. Mag lips are not positioned properly.

Mine does need a 'snap' on the bolt backstroke to get ejection to be vigourous but it does work

Once done, my clone runs like a dream and feeding is both very smooth and fast. Accuracy is also fantastic all the way out to 400m+.

I suspect a bit of TLC is required to get yours to run properly. Pity, it was not done at the factory as well as it should be.

Jerry

whats funny though is our clone is made and sold for 199$ and 20 minutes of polishing.

 

[yyj200]

I am enjoying an Annie 54 clone so I expect the solutions are similar. Extractor claws are not fitted properly. Mag lips are not positioned properly.

Mine does need a 'snap' on the bolt backstroke to get ejection to be vigourous but it does work

Once done, my clone runs like a dream and feeding is both very smooth and fast. Accuracy is also fantastic all the way out to 400m+.

I suspect a bit of TLC is required to get yours to run properly. Pity, it was not done at the factory as well as it should be.

Jerry

Yes. So true about the QC from Anschutz. I can’t believe this has gone uncorrected since 1954. I’ll need a tutorial for the TLC fix.

 

[allan harris]

I suspect a bit of TLC is required to get yours to run properly. Pity, it was not done at the factory as well as it should be.
Jerry

Spot on, Jerry...I bought my first Anschutz in 1965 and have always had several various models in the safe since - NEVER owned a 54 or 64 action sporter that didn't require fine tuning to run reliably. Exceptions have been a 54 match rifle, a 1531 in 222R and my current 1761 - This rifle has been up-graded but ran perfectly as received from shot one. Anschutz have pretty much priced themselves out of the market in my part of the world - So many good options have become available in recent years at a far cheaper price point.

 

[FLHTCUI]

What ammo are you using?

 

[grauhanen]

Although I've had more than a few Anschutz rifles, I haven't had personal experience with the problems described. They are not regular occurances, but they do attract attention on firearms forums. Very few shooters post about a rifle that works as it should, but when one doesn't there's not unexpected disappointment.

Considering the OP's dismay, no doubt the dealer's been contacted. What did the dealer say about these problems?

With regard to this particular case, there's no information about what's being used with this rifle so the following may not apply.

Sometimes a rail on a rimfire may interfere with ejection. The rail should be rifle/model specific. Sometimes when jamming on loading into the chamber occurs it may be associated with ammos that are dimensionally challenged with regard to fitting in the chamber.

 

[Mystic Precision]

Yes. So true about the QC from Anschutz. I can’t believe this has gone uncorrected since 1954. I’ll need a tutorial for the TLC fix.

My Asian clone is recent manf and suspect, ALL of them have QC problems... at least the 8 we have played with did. That is just a byproduct of $220 retail price... but the materials used are very good and the design is fantastic.

The shorty version has a far better manf action, barrels aren't as accurate but barrel swapping is easy.

And I definitely do not mind a bit of TLC to get this level of performance.

I would follow up with Anschutz/Dealer to see what they can do to help resolve. I wouldn't say QC issues from Annie are typical but it can happen. Once resolved, they do/can run really well and would be totally competitive in PRS.

If not, these Asian ones are...

Jerry

 

[Mystic Precision]

Spot on, Jerry...I bought my first Anschutz in 1965 and have always had several various models in the safe since - NEVER owned a 54 or 64 action sporter that didn't require fine tuning to run reliably. Exceptions have been a 54 match rifle, a 1531 in 222R and my current 1761 - This rifle has been up-graded but ran perfectly as received from shot one. Anschutz have pretty much priced themselves out of the market in my part of the world - So many good options have become available in recent years at a far cheaper price point.

Given how much some shooters are willing to throw at their PRS rigs, Annies are no longer 'expensive'.

Not what I have spent on my rifles ... but I don't need to keep up with the cool kids.

Jerry

 

[naktabar72]

I feel you,
My retirement gift from me to me, was a dream: an Anschutz 1710 . Brand new....
The action is not as smooth as my CZ friends, but my Anschutz shoots as good. ( she fired around 1500 rounds )
-The TRIGGER is a big disapointement: It break nice but is a POS, let me explain why.
1-LOTS of overtravel, and NOT adjustable.
2-The trigger shoe, you can move it back and forth, but the screw is partially hidden by the stock.
3-You need to take it appart ( remove the stock ), and be gentle by doing it : the trigger is designed to break if you apply to much tension on it ( pictures).
-I bought two 10 rounds magazine, on one of them, the last round is always jamming.
-I repaired the trigger with Bondo, but I will leave the Holland wrench there.
If I had to do it again, knowing what I know now ( experience ) I would go : CZ .

 

[yyj200]

What ammo are you using?

SK rifle match, Eley Tennex, SK Pistol match. All shoots well but a lot of FTEs and load function problems. Too depressing.

 

[yyj200]

Although I've had more than a few Anschutz rifles, I haven't had personal experience with the problems described. They are not regular occurances, but they do attract attention on firearms forums. Very few shooters post about a rifle that works as it should, but when one doesn't there's not unexpected disappointment.

Considering the OP's dismay, no doubt the dealer's been contacted. What did the dealer say about these problems?

With regard to this particular case, there's no information about what's being used with this rifle so the following may not apply.

Sometimes a rail on a rimfire may interfere with ejection. The rail should be rifle/model specific. Sometimes when jamming on loading into the chamber occurs it may be associated with ammos that are dimensionally challenged with regard to fitting in the chamber.

Thanks for your comments. I have sent this firearm back to the authorized Anschütz distributor, missing for a month, and he reported no malfunctions for over 100 rounds. This is not what I experienced upon trying it after receiving it back. The rail was one recommended. The ammo used was, SK RIFLE match. Tennex, SK pistol Match, all which shot well, but malfunctioned horribly. My CZ MTR has not skipped a beat and shot as well.

 

[allan harris]

Given how much some shooters are willing to throw at their PRS rigs, Annies are no longer 'expensive'.
Jerry

Couldn't agree more on that one, Jerry...I've imported a couple of Vudoos, a Rim X & a built to order Cooper from the US. By the time, they arrive at my place in Australia's Top End, my Anschutz rifles are cheap in comparison!!!! I post this comment often but will repeat it again here - Regardless of cost or reputation, every manufacturer will turn out a dud production rifle at some point - Anschutz don't have the monopoly on this one. I'm certainly not bashing Anschutz as I still have three 54's & a 1761 - All are reliable, accurate 22's.

 

[allan harris]

The ammo used was, SK RIFLE match. Tennex, SK pistol Match, all which shot well, but malfunctioned horribly.

It's not the ammo - All those listed should run fine. When there is an extraction/ejection problem with a 54, the extractors/spring clamp need adjustment/modification. If there is a feed issue, the magazine housing may need adjustment and/or the magazine feed lips may need a slight tweak. Mate, I feel your pain - Wish I lived down the road from you - I've had to set up a number of these rifles for friends in my local area - Trust me, if you get that thing running properly, all the initial frustration will disappear.

 

[yyj200]

It's not the ammo - All those listed should run fine. When there is an extraction/ejection problem with a 54, the extractors/spring clamp need adjustment/modification. If there is a feed issue, the magazine housing may need adjustment and/or the magazine feed lips may need a slight tweak. Mate, I feel your pain - Wish I lived down the road from you - I've had to set up a number of these rifles for friends in my local area - Trust me, if you get that thing running properly, all the initial frustration will disappear.

Thank you, hopefully you are right. I did send it back to the distributor and he reported no problems, but upon its return to me this was not evident. I have many quality firearms, so I'm confident its not operator error.

 

[allan harris]

I hope you get this sorted - That's a lot of money to spend to finish up with an unsatisfactory outcome.

I notice that you have a Canadian Weihrauch dealer & their prices seem VERY fair compared to what we pay down here. These HW60-66 actions are every bit the equal of a 54 and I'm surprised they seem to fly under the radar.
My Running Boar rifle has been an excellent performer from day one - So much so that I bought a HW60 sporter, had the action threaded and screwed in a 3 groove Benchmark. Sadly, like all production rifles, I've seen the odd horror story about these too!

https://dlairgun.com/collections/weihrauch-rimfires