argument between glocks or 1911 POLL

do you perfer GLOCK or 1911

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1911's have personality and are real steal .The guy behind the trigger is usually a serious " operator " who understands craftmanship .The pistol/ caliber was designed to be a "man stopper " and it is .
 
For me it's an issue of which one I dislike less, haha! I totally don't like the 1911 style guns, whereas I just somewhat dislike the way the Glock feels in my hand, so I went with the Glock... ;-)
 
medicman5555 said:
buy an xd instead of a glock
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:roll: :roll: :roll:

If you must replace your Glock at least buy an HK USP! 8)

Or if you're hellbent on saving $200 then go with an XD and complain about what you could have had................ :lol:

Or get it right the first time and buy a 1911 :idea: .
 
I have both.........and like'em as defensive pieces. G19 is compact, light, pointability is excellent.......my choice in the Glock family. I've had various 1911 over the last 25 years. Defensive pieces, competition guns, Collectors ones......A personnal favorite is a Series 70 Lightweight Commander: all the advantages of the G19 + bigger punch in a proven defensive caliber........So I'll say like a lot of old timers I know are saying:

If I had only but one gun........just give me an old 45.........

MARK :wink:
 
IM_Lugger said:
Bartledan said:
IM_Lugger said:
I’m not a big fan if either…they are two completely different guns so it’s hard to answer your question. I voted for 1911 only because I like the looks of it better and not a fan of the Glock grip angle. But if I had to defend myself with a gun (1911 or Glock) I’d take the Glock.

If you want a fair comparison, compare Glock to HK and XD, even K100. 1911 is not really in the same category...
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It's less than 12" long, capcble of use one handed, and makes little pieces of lead go thataway at useful speeds. How in the world are they nnot in the same category?

The theroetical evildoer that gets ventilated by said bits of lead certainly would argue that they are, in fact, the same category.
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Well OK one is a DAO the other is SA, one is polymer framed the other is steel, one design is an older 95 year old the other is a modern 25 year old, one has two external safeties the other has none and so on….. :wink:

How are they the same? Other than they are both handguns, are going to say that 1911 is in the same category as a revolver too?
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They are the same in that they are designed to do exactly the same thing. A conveniently portable handheld device which propels lead projectiles with deadly velocity.

So, other than they are both handguns, how are they the same? Why not say "other than they are not beach volleyball courts, how are they the same?" They are both pistols, and so can be compared apples to apples, just as Granny Smiths can be compared to Golden Delicious. I prefer Granny Smith. I prefer Glocks.

I mean, even the bloody forum heading! It's not "Glocks and 1911s and Pistols and Revolvers", it's just "Pistols and Revolvers".
 
ricka2 said:
...The guy behind the trigger is usually a serious " operator " who understands craftmanship ...
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Wow, that hasn't been my experience! Most of the guys behing the triggers of 1911s I've met have either been fanboys or IPSC shooters... and the IPSC shooters aren't really shooting 1911s anymore. I'd say the serious operators are choosing sigs, by and large.

Seriously, outside of the military traditions of the American forces and various American law enforcement agencies, who in the world is using 1911s? The answer to that question right there suggests a lot of the American preference for the venerable Browning design is nostalgia.
 
I agree with Bartledan, they are both pistols, both designed for combat, both designed to be shot from one hand, both designed for defensive situations (that is what handguns are designed for, duh :roll: ) both desined to drop the purp, both designed to (more or less) function reliably with out major mods.
What it breaks down to is personal preference. Some like steel others modern synthetics.
That said, they can both be race guns or remain true to their form and function.
A pistol is a pistol and a revolver is a revolver, no ifs ands or buts.
One Handed lead propelers would be a category for both.
 
Given pistols of equel quality the 1911 wins hands down. There are so many makers of 1911's now that perhaps the poll should of specified which 1911, where as there is only one maker of Glock, however I will assume that we are talking about the better examples of the 1911. I find the Glock aesthetically ugly and it's DA/SA trigger unnatual to manage. All of the controls for the 1911 are in the right place. I cannot understand how anyone can say the Glock is more reliable unless they are comparing it to a worn out 1911. The Glock maybe equelly reliable, but it cannot be more than 100% reliable. The Glock maybe more accurate than a milspec 1911, but when comparing fighting guns the point is moot, as a 10 minute pistol will solve the problem just as well as a 5 minute pistol. or for that matter a 2 minute pistol. When I first was introduced to the 1911, a Government model Colt, I thought the only way to improve the pistol was with better sights. Now most manufacturers of this pistol - except Norinco - furnish good sights. In my opinion the 1911, in it's better examples, and in the role for which it was designed - is one of the few impliments which might be equalled, but cannot be improved upon.
 
1911...receiver is composed of solid steel(durability)...gun is heavier giving inherent stability duing recoil...1911 has been around for 95+ years as stated above, therefore parts and spare frames are very accesible...if the frame on a glock gets damaged then the whole frame must be replaced whereas on a steel frame some welding can be done...1911 generally comes in bigger calibres as well as smaller ones(45acp, 10mm, 9mm super, 9mm, 400Corbon[myfavorite], 40S&W, 50GI, 22LR) almost as many differing calibres as the Glock(22LR, 9mm, 357SIG, 40S&W, 10mm, 45ACP, 45GAP).

Now for personal opinions...The Glock is lighter and I don't nessecarily like light pistols...The Glock seems to have too much muzzle flip for a gun of it's size given the same calibre; a lighter gun will always have more muzzle flip than a heavier gun in the same calibre given the same indexing point for the grip in relation to bore axis. The 1911 has a higher borea axis and still has less muzzle flip...Both guns to me feel the same for return speed to point of aim, although the 1911 usually seems to be closer to my original point of aim compared to the Glock(this could just be shooting style).

The two guns were designed with different intentions and are generally uncomparable even though I tried my best with my limited experience :wink: . I really do believe it comes down to personal preference and style...but if you want a gun in 400 Corbon you would be best served with the 1911 :D
 
It is possible to love the 1911 for what they are, classic designs that after almost century that still work as original designed and will get the job done.

I am not a member of the JMBIG cult (John Moses Browning Is God). Like most Browning designs the 1911 was surpassed long ago by other makers and Glock is one of them. Take a SIG and an 1911 apart and in the newer gun you see a simpler design with fewer parts that is easier to fix and maintain. Same with the Glock.

I like shooting my 1911, it's my favourite pistol bar none. However if it came to protecting my life with a pistol my choice would be a SIG 220.
 
pistol is a pistol and a revolver is a revolver, no ifs ands or buts.
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well alot of people will tell you that revolvers are pistols too, hows that for ifs or buts? :wink:

Nice rebuttal! I'm convinced!
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How do you even compare 1911’s to Glocks I just don’t get it… :? 1911 is more of a style than a model with a dozen of makers coming out with different models from Norinco to STI, not to mention the price ranges. Now Glock is made my Gaston Glock - one company.

Other than being handguns, they have nothing in common; like comparing pickup trucks to race cars. :roll:

If you want to compare apples to apples compare Glocks to HKs or XDs or Sigmas, at lest they have something in common…

But 1911 VS. Glock yes it’s about personal preference, because they are two completely different guns... :wink:
 
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