This is an issue I have with James Reeves as well. We learned [in Canada, anyway] with Norinco guns and other 3-rd world guns, that they need to be cleaned, properly lubed and maybe deburred a bit before we can be reasonably objective about how well a gun works. Reeves also seems to feel that a 'quality gun' should accept every kind and quality of ammunition without fail. IMO decent quality ammo is a must in any gun, and trying to shoot dogcrap shells through a semi-auto is dumb.
Canuck Operator Elite (M4 clone)...
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This is an issue I have with James Reeves as well. We learned [in Canada, anyway] with Norinco guns and other 3-rd world guns, that they need to be cleaned, properly lubed and maybe deburred a bit before we can be reasonably objective about how well a gun works. Reeves also seems to feel that a 'quality gun' should accept every kind and quality of ammunition without fail. IMO decent quality ammo is a must in any gun, and trying to shoot dogcrap shells through a semi-auto is dumb.
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Owning a gun that can't be relied on to discharge it's intended cartridge when asked to...is what's dumb.
Painkillers
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I've run an SKS that had it's barrel filled with congealed fluid film (dry wax). I wanted to see if it would kaboom, and it ran like a champ. I didn't have a great perspective as I was shooting, but the jaws on onlookers dropped, and one guy came up to me and asked if I cleaned the cosmo out before shooting it. Your statement is simply false. Done it, been there, she ran without a hiccup...with the cheapest crap military ball ammo around at that time.
The M4's are under "KINETIC" on the siteFew pics of this piece of #### lol.
Buttpad again is useless and rock hard, may throw a pussy pad on it so there is some cushion. More useless is the fixed 1/2 sling swivel on the butt, perfect spot for jabbing you in the chest...gonna have to fix that nonsense.
Little O ring on the firing pin retainer pin, guess it helps keep it put. Aluminum follower at least and moves smooth, mag spring is pretty strong, other springs feel "soft/light" to me but I don't know if that matters, seems like everyone throws reduced power springs in real Benelli M4's anyway so maybe I'm ahead there lol.
Case is good, extras are nice, sling is decent, glasses and foam plugs are likely TEMU quality, choke tubes are clean and smooth, but definitely not Carlson quality.
Didn't get out today, building a portable target stand today, off tomorrow so will try and get out with a bunch of different ammo and beat the #### out of it.
Fit and finish is pretty nice, other then the obvious casted parts braised on the barrel it's all machined 7075 and steel. Definitely looks very M4 cloney, let's hope it works lol
Well it works pretty decent, put 3 boxes through it in 40 minutes, all 2-3/4...6, 7-1/2, and Canam low recoil buckshot. The buckshot pops, pretty good muzzle flash off that stuff.
One fail to pick up a round, bolt closed on empty chamber mid way through, one light primer strike on the Federal 7-1/2 near the end of the run. Also noticed cleaning it today it was missing the C clip on the trigger pin bushing that keeps it from wandering and prevents the hammer spring and cap from flying out of the trigger group lol, have lots here so was easy to sort out, may have been part of the issues I had.
It's pretty fun, recoil is mild even with the #### buttpad, fixed it with a regular sling stud for now. Nothing fell apart on it, no bolt or piston peen yet, receiver rails not wrecked, a so I'll keep beating it up, see how long this piece of #### lasts lol.
Was able to figure out this batch of "hunt group" M4's were made by Hamle in Turkey, that's their logo on the guns. Oddly they don't even list the M4's, only the M2's on their website.
I almost want to buy one of each of these clones just to see if there is much or any difference. I know the one I got was test fired a bunch, it was dirty as hell. Maybe that's the new QC method for soft action parts, who knows.
