CC in Canada..what would you carry?
- Thread starter johNTO
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A small glock or M&P, I like and shoot well with both. They are light and no external safeties to deal with, I always thought a tt33 would be a good concealable pistol to carry but the half #### safety would be less than ideal. The one I have is reliable and pretty acurate.
I wouldn't carry! Here in Canada there really is no requirement. I understand that violent crime does and can happen, however, the odds are so low in Canada compared to the USA that there really is no need. Seeing that in my 52 years of life, I have not once had my life threatened, I feel pretty safe without a need to carry. With my two dobies, my house will never be broken into either.
On a flip side, from 1994-1999, I did have a CCW for New York State, as I belonged to a US shooting club and shot regularly in the US. One of the shooters at the club recommended I get a CCW as being a Canadian, knowing that our guns and ammo are in the trunk, we are easy targets with the amount of time we spent there. So I got one and used it in the US a couple of times, but even there, and the amount of times I travelled throughout New York State, I never encountered any life threatening moments or the need to actually have it. Lol, I still have my old CCW (now expired), just for memories sake
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On a flip side, from 1994-1999, I did have a CCW for New York State, as I belonged to a US shooting club and shot regularly in the US. One of the shooters at the club recommended I get a CCW as being a Canadian, knowing that our guns and ammo are in the trunk, we are easy targets with the amount of time we spent there. So I got one and used it in the US a couple of times, but even there, and the amount of times I travelled throughout New York State, I never encountered any life threatening moments or the need to actually have it. Lol, I still have my old CCW (now expired), just for memories sake
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af_newbie2
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I wouldn't carry! Here in Canada there really is no requirement. I understand that violent crime does and can happen, however, the odds are so low in Canada compared to the USA that there really is no need. Seeing that in my 52 years of life, I have not once had my life threatened, I feel pretty safe without a need to carry. With my two dobies, my house will never be broken into either.
On a flip side, from 1994-1999, I did have a CCW for New York State, as I belonged to a US shooting club and shot regularly in the US. One of the shooters at the club recommended I get a CCW as being a Canadian, knowing that our guns and ammo are in the trunk, we are easy targets with the amount of time we spent there. So I got one and used it in the US a couple of times, but even there, and the amount of times I travelled throughout New York State, I never encountered any life threatening moments or the need to actually have it. Lol, I still have my old CCW (now expired), just for memories sake
+1 not only that. In Canada, the self-defense laws would have to be changed for anyone to be able to actually use their carry gun in self-defense.
As it is now, Canadians have no right to use guns to protect their property or life.
All the PAL licenses we have are for "target shooting", "hunting" or "gun collecting". You have no right to use them for any other purposes.
Kinda retarded.
But what can you expect? We are the Queen's subjects.
Stay out of New York - Chicago - Detroit - LA you know the cities with the highest gun crime rates and the most restrictive gun laws in the States the rest of the country has a lower violent crime rate than Canada has but they still carry in these other areas.
I'd carry a handgun if it was legal here just like I carry a knife or put on my seat belt.
I'd carry a handgun if it was legal here just like I carry a knife or put on my seat belt.
Canada: 1,062 Violent crimes per 100k
USA: 372.6 violent crimes per 100k
Sources:
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2016001/article/14642-eng.htm
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-1
vanderkalin
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You really should frequent the legal forums. You have it totally backwards. Canadian law allows the use of force, up to and including lethal, to MATCH the threat. The carry and storage laws are what make this impractical. And you can use them for that purpose, but you can't aquire them for that purpose. If you use them to save your life you will most likely be charged with careless storage, not murder. I'm simplifying a bit and it makes no sense, but this is the way it is apparently.
af_newbie2;13654744 But what can you expect? We are the Queen's subjects.[/QUOTE said:And herein lays the problem. If we had the backbone to oust the scoundrels back in 1776, like our southern neighbours did, we'd be totin' as we speak.
af_newbie2
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It is like saying you can use them to rob a bank. Of course, you CAN use them, but you'll be breaking the law.
The same if you use your guns to protect your life. You'll be charged with careless storage, discharging a firearm etc. then you would have to prove in court that you used equal force and that anyone in your position would feel their life was in a mortal danger.
Otherwise, you'll get a 2nd degree or manslaughter at best.
Try to prove this in court!!!
How did you end up with a loaded handgun in your hand when someone broke into your house in the middle of the night?
The way the Canadian Firearms laws are setup, you'll spend some time in jail and you'll never be allowed to use guns in your lifetime IF you used a gun to defend your life.
And once you come out of jail, a brother or father of the junkie that you killed, would come and kill you with a .22 while you hold a baseball bat and a Canadian flag.
Do you want to talk about the Canadian law? It is a joke.
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He turned out alright in the end, no?
I think getting into bed with a naked Eva Mendes would be enough of a distraction for anyone to allow a Jake Hoyt to sneak in and disarm them. Without his guns, there wasn't much Alonso could about that Russian hit squad. So, no... it didn't 'turn out alright', but it was still a cool set up.
For reals though... if we could conceal carry, I would probably get an FNX-9 in an IWB/small of back holster. I was looking at one other day, it's really light, small and feels good in the hand. I've read some good reviews and, hey... it's an FN. It's definitely on my list.
Cameron SS
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For clarity,
Canadian law authorizes the use force, up to and including lethal force, to defend yourself against an attack. People who use excessive force are often charged with murder and or manslaughter. People tend to only get charged with storage violations when the use of force was legit and you can't get pinned for anything else.e.
adamthaggan
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I think people here are conflating the words charged and convicted. You will be charged with a slew of offences should you use anything in any manner of self defence. You aren’t allowed to defend yourself in Canada under almost any circumstance. Your job as a citizen is to run away from a threat. You cannot exceed the force you’ve been met with, and you can’t arm yourself with anything for self defence. Hence things like concealed carry, tasers, mace, or even carrying a pocket knife without a reasonable explanation could have you facing charges. Charges you will not win. The RCMPs job is to arrest and file a report after a crime has been committed. That’s it. No serving. No protecting. Personally I recommend a recurve with field tips. Nice and quiet and I can argue if I was trying to murder a would be intruder I’d have used a broad head.
100% wrong
