Concealed Carry in Canada....
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Because guns have a bad rep. When's the last time you heard about a mass killing by pot.
###s have organized and got their rights recognized. But like pot, ###s are harmless, and tolerated by most.
Nope, guns are killers. Social engineering has doomed the shooting community.
Voting Conservative will give us a stay of execution, though.
When was the last time anyone on this forum was searched?
But what you are suggesting is wrong and could get you into a lot of trouble see a post above. CBC would ave a field day trying to sort out what guns were legal guns and which ones were those terrible illegal guns if we did march.
Take Care
Bob
But what you are suggesting is wrong and could get you into a lot of trouble see a post above. CBC would ave a field day trying to sort out what guns were legal guns and which ones were those terrible illegal guns if we did march.
Take Care
Bob
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Many people are killed over drug deals--- and it would be nice to be able to take your handgun hunting with you without latts cases locks and headaches to protect yourself. there are times you need it and there are time you don't but why should someone other then your self decide when you do or in our cay if we do I'd like for the decision makers to see what it's like to find your self face to face with a bear or a moose ( would their mindset change if they knew what fear feels like )
When going to and from range why are we not allowed to carry someone can follow us rob us or worst and we are defenseless and who is in better shoes the criminal of course it seems like the system favors the law breakers not law abiding citizens
Why should the law abiding man or woman paying taxes be able defend themselves ??
When going to and from range why are we not allowed to carry someone can follow us rob us or worst and we are defenseless and who is in better shoes the criminal of course it seems like the system favors the law breakers not law abiding citizens
Why should the law abiding man or woman paying taxes be able defend themselves ??
TheGamerXxX
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The one guy that I used to work with, Is not in Wilderness/ or Armoured Car, or works for anybody.
He works for himself, and his permit is for "preservation of life" and he works in the city... no he is not and was never a Officer (that includes police/rcmp/corrections/warrants/etc)
His ATC clearly states "for protection of life"
Took him over 2 years to get it, and spent more then 10K getting it for "courses"... and when I asked him if he'd do it again... he simply said "not even if I could make millions"
Lastly... because people will ask... no it's not any "body guard" like job either.
Again. People do get them... once they show they've taken accredit courses, and jump through all the hoops the provincial CFO puts forth... and even then I've heard of some guys getting simply refused after spending 10$K+
IF the CFO comes out and said "take this course" and go through the backgrounds/criminal checks etc, and they will approve it, people would do it... but like that one guy who posted earlier this year (The one that his wife was serving bonds), it is all a "risk" in seeing your cash go out the window.
You guys can quote statistics till the cows come home. Send those fancy letters to the PMs (that most of don't get read, but put in a big file in the back somewhere). What we need is some politican to say "yes. People, like politicians, should have the right to self defence, without spending thousands of dollars"
He works for himself, and his permit is for "preservation of life" and he works in the city... no he is not and was never a Officer (that includes police/rcmp/corrections/warrants/etc)
His ATC clearly states "for protection of life"
Took him over 2 years to get it, and spent more then 10K getting it for "courses"... and when I asked him if he'd do it again... he simply said "not even if I could make millions"
Lastly... because people will ask... no it's not any "body guard" like job either.
Again. People do get them... once they show they've taken accredit courses, and jump through all the hoops the provincial CFO puts forth... and even then I've heard of some guys getting simply refused after spending 10$K+
IF the CFO comes out and said "take this course" and go through the backgrounds/criminal checks etc, and they will approve it, people would do it... but like that one guy who posted earlier this year (The one that his wife was serving bonds), it is all a "risk" in seeing your cash go out the window.
You guys can quote statistics till the cows come home. Send those fancy letters to the PMs (that most of don't get read, but put in a big file in the back somewhere). What we need is some politican to say "yes. People, like politicians, should have the right to self defence, without spending thousands of dollars"
EDIT: I quoted the wrong post
Pot heads stand united for the most part ... seems there is a pretty big divide within the Gun Community itself regarding CCW. Some are all for complete CCW while others are more for abolishing current laws like ATT, NR vs Restricted which would at least allow for wilderness carry. I am part of the latter. Bottom line ... If the Gun Community itself cannot agree on a common direction for some form of CCW I don't think we will ever see a change.
6Gun
Pot heads stand united for the most part ... seems there is a pretty big divide within the Gun Community itself regarding CCW. Some are all for complete CCW while others are more for abolishing current laws like ATT, NR vs Restricted which would at least allow for wilderness carry. I am part of the latter. Bottom line ... If the Gun Community itself cannot agree on a common direction for some form of CCW I don't think we will ever see a change.
6Gun
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The shooting community is too diverse, where as the potheads have only one goal in mind.
When you need a protector, police are just minutes away.
http://www.theprovince.com/news/high+alert+after+string+attacks/9069175/story.html
UBC on high alert after string of ### attacks
By Dan Fumano and Ian Austin, The Province October 22, 2013
UBC on high alert after string of ### attacks
UBC students walk in the fog at night in front of Totem Park near where one of the recent assaults on young women took place at UBC in Vancouver, B.C., on October 22, 2013
Photograph by: Steve Bosch , PNG
An autumn chill, unusually thick fog, and a tense, sombre mood hung in the air as Tuesday night descended on the University of British Columbia campus, with reports of a fourth recent attack — unreported to police — on the minds of students and staff.
The university community is on high alert after a string of ###ual assaults by an unidentified male on young women walking on campus.
Violence and safety have become an urgent topic of daily conversation for everyone on campus, said third year International Relations student Jocelyn Bussieres, but especially for young women.
Bussieres, 20, and her roommate used to go for early morning jogs through the wooded areas on the western edge of campus, near Wreck Beach.
But they’ve stopped, in the wake of the recent attacks.
“We don’t run in the mornings any more, especially with this fog,” Bussieres said. “I don’t really feel comfortable doing stuff like that any more.”
“Definitely, I wouldn’t even consider going to a party or something like that on campus,” she said. “I’m really happy I live off-campus.”
But getting to and from home has recently become a more frightening proposition for those living on campus — and for their loved ones.
First-year Arts student Sarah Vafaei, 18, lives in Totem Park residence — right beside where a male assailant recently groped and punched a 17-year-old woman, tearing her clothes and leaving her with a black eye.
“It’s scary,” said Vafaei, adding she’s nervous now to walk home from swim practice at 7 p.m.
But the situation may be even scarier for her parents.
Varafaei said her parents, who live in Iran, are frightened for their young daughter’s safety on the other side of the world. Her mother has recently been phoning her with increased frequency for updates and assurances.
“She’s scared, she’s very scared,” said Varafaei. “Big time.”
“It’s crazy right now. The fog makes it scarier.”
Worried students are using the university’s Safe Walk program in record numbers as the RCMP’s Major Crimes Unit has been called in to investigate a trio of troubling ### assaults.
Sign on to the UBC Alma Mater Society website, and the first thing you’ll see is a bright red banner — Don’t Walk Alone, Add It To Your Phone — advertising the Safe Walk program that’s grown five-fold in light of three weekend assaults on university students.
“Last night we had 56 people use the service,” said AMS communications manager Abby Blinch. “On an ordinary night it would be five to 10.”
But that was before a white man in a black hoodie — police believe it’s the same attacker — ###ually assaulted three young women.
Monday night the bolstered program added university vans to the program and extended its hours — the service is now provided from 8 p.m. to 4 a.m.
AMS student services manager Matthew Duguay said security personnel at the university’s main pub — The Pit — are instructed to phone campus security or Safe Walk if they see someone who’s had too much to drink to make sure they are safely escorted.
Meanwhile, the 17-officer UBC RCMP force — tasked with looking after 48,000 students (more than West Vancouver or Vernon, for example) — has handed over the investigation to the RCMP’ s Serious Crimes Unit.
“We are overwhelmed,” said an officer at the UBC detachment, referring media calls to RCMP spokesman Sgt. Peter Thiessen.
“That’s why Major Crimes took over this file,” said Thiessen, who said investigators have been told ‘the possibility is high” that the three reported assaults are the work of one culprit — all on the weekend, late at night, involving three young female students.
“We work with our police partners, and our non-police partners, to ensure the highest level of safety for the students.”
http://www.theprovince.com/news/high+alert+after+string+attacks/9069175/story.html
UBC on high alert after string of ### attacks
By Dan Fumano and Ian Austin, The Province October 22, 2013
UBC on high alert after string of ### attacks
UBC students walk in the fog at night in front of Totem Park near where one of the recent assaults on young women took place at UBC in Vancouver, B.C., on October 22, 2013
Photograph by: Steve Bosch , PNG
An autumn chill, unusually thick fog, and a tense, sombre mood hung in the air as Tuesday night descended on the University of British Columbia campus, with reports of a fourth recent attack — unreported to police — on the minds of students and staff.
The university community is on high alert after a string of ###ual assaults by an unidentified male on young women walking on campus.
Violence and safety have become an urgent topic of daily conversation for everyone on campus, said third year International Relations student Jocelyn Bussieres, but especially for young women.
Bussieres, 20, and her roommate used to go for early morning jogs through the wooded areas on the western edge of campus, near Wreck Beach.
But they’ve stopped, in the wake of the recent attacks.
“We don’t run in the mornings any more, especially with this fog,” Bussieres said. “I don’t really feel comfortable doing stuff like that any more.”
“Definitely, I wouldn’t even consider going to a party or something like that on campus,” she said. “I’m really happy I live off-campus.”
But getting to and from home has recently become a more frightening proposition for those living on campus — and for their loved ones.
First-year Arts student Sarah Vafaei, 18, lives in Totem Park residence — right beside where a male assailant recently groped and punched a 17-year-old woman, tearing her clothes and leaving her with a black eye.
“It’s scary,” said Vafaei, adding she’s nervous now to walk home from swim practice at 7 p.m.
But the situation may be even scarier for her parents.
Varafaei said her parents, who live in Iran, are frightened for their young daughter’s safety on the other side of the world. Her mother has recently been phoning her with increased frequency for updates and assurances.
“She’s scared, she’s very scared,” said Varafaei. “Big time.”
“It’s crazy right now. The fog makes it scarier.”
Worried students are using the university’s Safe Walk program in record numbers as the RCMP’s Major Crimes Unit has been called in to investigate a trio of troubling ### assaults.
Sign on to the UBC Alma Mater Society website, and the first thing you’ll see is a bright red banner — Don’t Walk Alone, Add It To Your Phone — advertising the Safe Walk program that’s grown five-fold in light of three weekend assaults on university students.
“Last night we had 56 people use the service,” said AMS communications manager Abby Blinch. “On an ordinary night it would be five to 10.”
But that was before a white man in a black hoodie — police believe it’s the same attacker — ###ually assaulted three young women.
Monday night the bolstered program added university vans to the program and extended its hours — the service is now provided from 8 p.m. to 4 a.m.
AMS student services manager Matthew Duguay said security personnel at the university’s main pub — The Pit — are instructed to phone campus security or Safe Walk if they see someone who’s had too much to drink to make sure they are safely escorted.
Meanwhile, the 17-officer UBC RCMP force — tasked with looking after 48,000 students (more than West Vancouver or Vernon, for example) — has handed over the investigation to the RCMP’ s Serious Crimes Unit.
“We are overwhelmed,” said an officer at the UBC detachment, referring media calls to RCMP spokesman Sgt. Peter Thiessen.
“That’s why Major Crimes took over this file,” said Thiessen, who said investigators have been told ‘the possibility is high” that the three reported assaults are the work of one culprit — all on the weekend, late at night, involving three young female students.
“We work with our police partners, and our non-police partners, to ensure the highest level of safety for the students.”
iamcanadianeh
CGN Regular
- Location
- Vancouver Island
Instead of CCW, I think we should focus on getting approved for carry permits for wilderness carry, then and after gaining momentum focus on removing restrictions placed on restricted firearms.
Yes, this seems to be the most sensible way to go about it.
- Location
- Ottawa Ontario
There was a woman ###ually assaulted two blocks from my house last weekend after she got off the bus. The man engaged her in conversation as she walked up the street to her house, then forced her into some cedar bushes and raped her. I live in a middle class suburb of Ottawa. It could have been my daughter, wife, or neighbour. All the Police have done is well....nothing....except ask for the publics help to identify the suspect. I wonder how many Police Officers live life off duty without something for self and home defence? Knowing what they know about society
edit: follow the law
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iamcanadianeh
CGN Regular
- Location
- Vancouver Island
If we can't get wilderness carry permits and take our restricted firearms everywhere we take non-restricteds, there is 100% no way IMHO we will ever in a million years see CCW in this country. Look at how politics works, they ease things in then leverage it rather than go all out unless they want to piss people off. Also, can you really see Canadians going for CCW right now? Heck, I don't think half the firearms owners would go for it. There's a good portion of firearms owners who don't even like handguns or black guns.
And hope she never has to use "it", or she'll likely be in deeper $hit than the attacker would be, if he carried out his plan.
Remember, in Canada, the victim is the one who is worse off at the end of the scrap, not the one who is inoccent.
thats not what i said. you misquoted me. i said "follow the law" haha
but if she would rather be raped and possibly murdered, she can make that choice at the time, she doesnt HAVE TO use whatever tools she might have.
realistically, your daughter is being dragged into the woods by a rapist... you are glad she doesnt have any defense tools on her?
Have you listened to Open line show on 710 VOCM lately ? After the double homicide suicide that happened last week people are on about how the shooter had an AK47 and illegal modified " clips " and wore body armour. They see no reason anyone should have handguns or scary military weapons no matter what. I doubt we'll ever see concealed carry with the fears of the masses or change their minds ever.
A sad fact, I'm afraid.
The shooting community is too diverse, where as the potheads have only one goal in mind.
I respectfully disagree ... potheads come in all forms from professionals to blue collar and everything in between - far more diverse I think. No reason the Gun Community cannot somehow agree on more REALISTIC campaign like wilderness carry and some acceptable rules surrounding it. I'd rather have the gun community draft the proposal up than the government. An organized effort similar to that of Sensible BC with strong leadership and spokesperson could get alot of attention.
6Gun
