Crazy Mountain Lion hunt

sigtactical said:
no need to fuel the antis with this kind of hunt.

antis argumentation fall-off when the question is hunting for food or getting ridd of some varmints ,but this kind of kill put fuel in their tank no wonder.

it's easy to explain to someone who may think his meat land in his plate by magic.

hunting moose, deer,bears,rabbits, wild turkeys make sens , everyone has to eat in order to stay alive.

at the opposite, lion hunt, elephants, tigers,...hunting them for what??? trophy??? beeew, sorry but THIS kind of useless hunting for the sole purpose of getting a trophy is just bringing more fuel to their already pale argumentation when the discussion stay inside the hunt/food criteria.

there's many talibans who would make a way much respectable trophy in my opinion, and them too arent eatable..
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This style of hunt does not fuel the anti's....having hunters that dont support other hunters fuels the anti's.

Just because you dont do it, does not mean its not hunting. As for the African stuff, Elephants, lions and jaguars threaten villages constantly. Hunting them for food or trophy keeps the human:animal ratio in check. If its legal, then I say go for it. There are plenty of hunting practices that I do not participate in, but as a hunter I am proud to support them.
 
drache said:
You think the anti's care about that?
Why not just go down to the supermarket and buy your meat like everyone else? :rolleyes:
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since a long time now, i dont eat that sh** anymore.....i'd rather get my hunt(deer,rabbit birds) to eat, wich is exactly what i do, otherwise, i dont eat their 18 months-raised-on-steroid kind of creepy beef, i would eat golf green, cactus, or suspicious mushrooms instead!!
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mvarley84 said:
This style of hunt does not fuel the anti's....having hunters that dont support other hunters fuels the anti's.

Just because you dont do it, does not mean its not hunting. As for the African stuff, Elephants, lions and jaguars threaten villages constantly. Hunting them for food or trophy keeps the human:animal ratio in check. If its legal, then I say go for it. There are plenty of hunting practices that I do not participate in, but as a hunter I am proud to support them.
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you are just quoting some border line scenarios where it's impossible to act differently....but seriously, what about species disapearing completly of the earth?? and where was the absolute need to shoot that lion in a soo frantic and lack of marksmanship like in that vid???

the worst part here, is how idiotic and poor hunters these double YY's are ...

i support all kind of hunt, i'm not an avid hunter, but still quite a bit active, it has nothing related.....just that, hunting '''anything goes''' for the sole purpose of what??...getting some heads on display??? just make me wonder what purpose it has.
 
sigtactical said:
drache said:
You think the anti's care about that?

since a long time now, i dont eat that sh** anymore.....i'd rather get my hunt(deer,rabbit birds) to eat, wich is exactly what i do, otherwise, i dont eat their 18 months-raised-on-steroid kind of creepy beef, i would eat golf green, cactus, or suspicious mushrooms instead!!
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How is that answer any different than anything a "trophy hunter" could give? That is YOUR personal preference just like trophy hunting is a personal preference. See where Im getting at?

Realize that I myself dont believe in hunting just for a trophy. But being on these boards I came to understand it.
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How is that answer any different than anything a "trophy hunter" could give? That is YOUR personal preference just like trophy hunting is a personal preference. See where Im getting at?

Realize that I myself dont believe in hunting just for a trophy. But being on these boards I came to understand it
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well, i tend in this direction too, but me, it's one shot one kill. if i cant be sure at 90% of my shot, i'll wait or let it go....a little bit of marksmanship doesn't hurt at all ...and make every hunters look good and professional....not the impression left by these ugly yahoos!!
 
sigtactical said:
you are just quoting some border line scenarios where it's impossible to act differently....but seriously, what about species disapearing completly of the earth?? and where was the absolute need to shoot that lion in a soo frantic and lack of marksmanship like in that vid???

the worst part here, is how idiotic and poor hunters these double YY's are ...

i support all kind of hunt, i'm not an avid hunter, but still quite a bit active, it has nothing related.....just that, hunting '''anything goes''' for the sole purpose of what??...getting some heads on display??? just make me wonder what purpose it has.
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You obviously dont support all hunts...

The animal being hunted does not define hunting. It is the practice of tracking, predicting movements, putting in the leg work....You know, the same stuff every hunter does whether his harvest goes on the wall or in the freezer.

I have never taken an animal to taxidermy. I never will either, but that doesn't mean that I won't support and respect those that do. You have a valid license, and are willing to put in the miles to get the kill, that is all you need to have my respect.
 
Flame on me for saying this, but to hunt a cougar with dogs is like hooking up with women by drugging them. WAY too easy and lame.

If I ever hunt cougar it will track it on my own - NO dogs. If I am never able to actually track/locate one, then too bad for me. I realize it is an acceptable practice to use dogs but I am 100% against it.

Nice shooting dickheads.
 
X-fan said:
Hunting like life can get messy....Sh1t happens and then you deal with it...Just the way it is.

Guys like you need to learn that there is more than one way to hunt and more than one type of animal to kill.
Cougar meat is fantastic.

Nut up or join the antis.
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Again I dont Agree. Falling on that side of the fence would not make me a hunter anymore.

Rule #1 is safety first These guys FAIL
Rule #2 is a clean Shot FAIL again
As for s**t happens , Dont take the shot if you Cant make it clean. You pass and try again.
They Failed on every aspect anyway, with their mentally and Attitude toward nature and living creatures.
 
beefman said:
I don't think you fully appreciate the concept of "divide and conquer"...after all, there is NO need for you to kill that deer/moose for meat when you can buy it at Loeb's.

Poor little things...just let them live. :kickInTheNuts:

They hold a legal tag issued by the Gov't...just like you. END of story. :)
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as a responsable hunter I cannot endorse that ####. If it make me a Anti's Then let it be. I will not stop Hunting for my Organic meat even if it ever become illegal

I kill Deer because Loeb's meat is bad for my health. When I eat a steak I dont want Vaccine and antibiotics or other BS. I have the right to eat the same food as my Grand father did.

Smoking is cigarettes is legal, Gambling, and taking pill and booze too. I dont it.
 
I'd hunt mountain lions with dogs using a handgun/bow/rifle in a heart beat and I wouldn't eat the meat either I'd take it for the dogs though...
 
I totally respect, and will always defend a person's right to hunt, as a food source, clothing, etc. For many, this is a way of life handed down through decades, and in fact, generations. What I don't condone, and never will, is killing for the sake of killing. A good example of this is the video in this post and the recent post of the "century club" of the shooting of 100 crows in a day.

Being at the top of the food chain does not give us the right to dispose of any animal just because we can. If they are no threat to life, limb, or way of life, just enjoy them and marvel in what they are, but don't kill them.

By reading the posts it's good to see that I'm not alone in my thinking.
 
Sadly...I think this thread is a perfect example of the division that exists in our sporting community.

We can almost never present ourselves as a unified front against the anti's...too much in-fighting among competing ideologies.

Even when a particular hunting style is 100% legal, our own people denounce it.

We are truly, our own worst enemies. :(
 
I dont hunt to kill. I hunt for the experience in the outdoors. The camaraderie. The meat. The male bonding...

I do not enjoy the killing, even if I do enjoy the kill. This is why I shoot an animal multiple times if it has not dropped, and again when I walk up to it if still alive. I do not slit its throat, as I see that as a disgusting way to dispatch an animal. How would you like to have a round through your chest, and then a guy walk up to you and cut your throat?

There are those of us who hunt to kill. They hunt strictly for a rack, or a fur, and nothing more. They will shoot a cougar. They will let meat spoil. These types and I do not see eye to eye, and never will. If perhaps they just stfu about it and didnt post videos of their poor marksmanship, then it would probably not see so much contesting views.... Instead, every hillbilly who wastes a cat, or a 100 crows, brags about it.

Yes, we are our worst enemies
 
sigtactical said:
well, i tend in this direction too, but me, it's one shot one kill. if i cant be sure at 90% of my shot, i'll wait or let it go....a little bit of marksmanship doesn't hurt at all ...and make every hunters look good and professional....not the impression left by these ugly yahoos!!
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I wasn't talking about their shooting because like I said before they should have shot better.

You stated you hate trophy hunters and thats the topic we are talking about.

You stated you hunt for food even though you can buy it at the store. Your personal opinion is that you like the taste of wild meat better. That is your opinion. A trophy hunter's opinion is that they like the challenge of stalking and killing a trophy animal and then having it stuffed and mounted.
 
Sigh. Too much "my way or the highway" in this thread. What I think the issue is with this video is the image it portrays to the anti's. Hunting cougars is like hunting anything else, you kill the animal as humanely as possible, take the meat and skin and anything else useable, and show respect. I have no problem with that.

What got me about this video was the lack of respect it portrayed. These guys may be the most ethical hunters on earth, but the way the video portrayed them was very poor. They did the best they could at the time, but in my mind their main failing was not preparing adequately before. Not having the right guns to do a fast job, apparently not being experienced enough with the guns they had, and putting themselves in a situation they could not adequately deal with. They did everything legally, but not necessarily ethically.

I don't see this view as being divisive between hunters, as I support all ethical hunting, and will actively dissuade unethical hunting. Being known to be and portrayed to be ethical is the first step in bringing the public around to our side when it comes to hunting. They don't have to be pro-hunting, but they should at least be shown that what we do is fair and respectful.
 
The species these guys were hunting aren't endangered.

I like mountain lions too and probably won't ever shoot one with anything but a camera or my hiking shotgun if it comes for my kids - but so long as they're not in a threatened species, I'm perfectly fine with anyone hunting them.

I agree it wasn't a clean kill - but has anyone criticizing these guys ever not had one with whatever you hunt? Even with a 7mm you're not guaranteed a clean kill.
 
a fool can be a wise man if he keeps his mouth shut. i don't agree that this was an ethically taken animal but to the idiots who say that they arn't edable they should go to thier local fish and game wildlife dinner you might be shocked at whats on the menu i know iwas at my first but i tried everything and it was all good except one critter (rabbit) and i firmly beleive that it was how it was prepared. thanks to these events i have had everything you other meat hunters would considder normal plus critters like porkupine(spelling?) crow pidgeon(this was the hardest for me as i grew up in a city and these things are basically rats with feathers) even ostrich(again spelling) cougar is still something i have never had but is at the top of my list of animals to try. DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE SPOUTING OFF. what is edible or not is a matter of perspective as well as how and what you hunt once again i'm not sayin this was an ethical hunt but it is considdered legal so is the the manner in which YOU hunt. i am utterly disgusted at the attitudes of some poeple in this thread we are all in this together
 
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