Yeah like the idea of a DI gun like this to use all my parts. But can't afford to be the guy who gets jammed up first. Basically the way they make it sound is "buy our gun. but once you have it you can FO and its your problem now".
Crusader Arms Crypto
- Thread starter MilsurpLover
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Personally, IF I were inclined to buy one? I would still insist on it having an NR FRT entry beforehand. No way I want to be the first guy trying to explain to a CO or Constable that my semi-auto AR-clone in the wild is actually NR....
PinaKaleada
CGN Regular
- Location
- South of most
I’d be buying the moment I see an FRT!
MacPapRonin
CGN Regular
- Location
- Toronto, ON
Agree completely. They should consolidate their existing lines and focus on improving QC, QA, communications and follow-up before adding even more products to their line.
Guys I just had a realization. I am also on the fence and dont want to end up with a $2k paper weight. But IF the clowns slap the ol' varient sticker on it, we can just buy Raven builder kits and we are back up and running.
Yes its an expensive way to end up with a Raven, but this is worst case ontario and you'd "only" have a $1k prohib paper weight (crypto receiver), but still a useable rifle (Raven with Crypto parts).
Yes its an expensive way to end up with a Raven, but this is worst case ontario and you'd "only" have a $1k prohib paper weight (crypto receiver), but still a useable rifle (Raven with Crypto parts).
Technically, if they make it into an AR variant, the feds will buy (read: steal) it from you for $1300ish too if the buyback ever goes through, so you're only actually gambling $700ish.
(I don't know the state of those things, so if my understanding of that whole mess is off, please be gentle)
I've seen better machining at the local technical trades school.I can't believe there are still Canadians out there willing to risk $k's on "holy crap, that kinda worked!" machine shop tinker projects.
Pass me the popcorn and prove me wrong. Please!
FatCatsDad
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
99% chance it's FRT# will class it as a prohibited minutes after the RCMP lab gets hold of one.
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FatCatsDad
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I doubt anyone will see any money for their confiscated guns.
After being in their inventory for investigation if it's been used in a crimes and the backlog of 3-5 yrs, you'll be lucky if you get a newly invented $100 public safety tax credit.
Confiscation without renumeration has been already established when it comes to guns and those of us old enough to remember.
Dexter Morgan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
That is by no means your "worst case scenario".
Worst case scenario is getting caught with one of these, and facing prohibited weapons charges.
Keep in mind; This is not something that you bought legally, before the 2020 OIC.
It will not have any of the amnesty protections of your previously bought guns.
If this is deemed to be an AR-15; Then the sale itself is illegal for both the buyer and the seller.
Never mind the additional charges for getting caught using it in the bush.
AR15 barrels and bolts are headspaced from the factory, no need to worry about headspace or buy go/no go gauges (TNA Does rent them out if you want to double check). Good point on the reaction rod though, as I am not sure if the Cryptos upper would fit the standard clamp around vise mount.
This is "kinda" true. In reality it does make a difference if the receiver is out of spec.
The sitting of the barrel extension into the upper receiver thread portion of the extension with the index slot affects headspace. I have diagnosed some of these issues in the past including a factory Colt AR15A3 from the Y2K era. If headspace is not correct, some accurate issue starts happening, it is the easiest sign to start connecting the dots.
If there is a gap between the barrel extension and the upper receiver ledge, it is better to check headspace.
Headspace goes in 3 gauges IIRC - go, no go and field. At least check no go and field. Theoretically in a perfectly in spec receiver, there is no reason to check headspace. But as soon as you see something that is a bit off, check head space.
These issues happened more than often in the notorious time frame from late 90's to mid/late 2000's - due to general lack of quality control on the "important" spec bhy many contractors and also the war rush.
But I haven't seen or heard of these issues in the US rifles in the last 10 years as much.
The sitting of the barrel extension into the upper receiver thread portion of the extension with the index slot affects headspace. I have diagnosed some of these issues in the past including a factory Colt AR15A3 from the Y2K era. If headspace is not correct, some accurate issue starts happening, it is the easiest sign to start connecting the dots.
If there is a gap between the barrel extension and the upper receiver ledge, it is better to check headspace.
Headspace goes in 3 gauges IIRC - go, no go and field. At least check no go and field. Theoretically in a perfectly in spec receiver, there is no reason to check headspace. But as soon as you see something that is a bit off, check head space.
These issues happened more than often in the notorious time frame from late 90's to mid/late 2000's - due to general lack of quality control on the "important" spec bhy many contractors and also the war rush.
But I haven't seen or heard of these issues in the US rifles in the last 10 years as much.
No it doesn't.
AR15 headspace is governed by the bolt, barrel extension and the chamber. IF the barrel fitment into the upper receiver was really off, the bolt wouldn't lock up properly, which would prevent the rifle from firing. When the bolt locks into the barrel extension lugs, the headspace will be correct, on a correctly manufactured / chambered barrel.
Nope. If it didn't exist when the OiC was passed it is not eligible for the amnesty or the buyback. You'd just have an unregistered prohib on your hands, and all the fun stuff that comes with it (potential charges, etc etc).
IMO selling a gun without an FRT and just ASSUMING the feds are going to call it NR when they get around to giving it an FRT is stupid. Not as stupid as dropping $2000 on a pre-order for a gun without an FRT though... And that is without considering the reliability and durability of most of the other of Canadian Made AR-ish rifles...
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2CentTactical
CGN Regular
- Location
- Nova Scotia
While I applaud manufacturers coming up with options I don't think this is the option for me. They have enough issues with their other guns which I wanted to like. That combined with the very high chances this gets prohib attached as soon as it goes to the RCMP / I don't have the money for court bills if someone looks at it differently.
