- Location
- sudbury, ontario
Nac du Taber just might have to pick one up …s…t
Crusader Arms Crypto
- Thread starter MilsurpLover
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How do you figure? People put stanag magwells on sks's all the time. Interested in hearing your thoughts.
It cannot accept an AR15, therefore it is not an AR15. There are loads of rifles that accept AR15 mags and are not AR15s.
To be clear, the CFC doesn't need any excuse to list a rifle as a "variant". You are aware they listed the Mitchell Arms AK22 as a variant of an AK, when the AK22 shares not a single part and operates in a completely different manner from an AK? If the AK22 can be a variant of an AK then pretty much any firearm can be listed as a variant. The notion that some feature or other stops them listing it as a variant ignores past behaviour from CFC.
GOOD LORD. Go back and watch the video again ...... and maybe again.
The front of the receiver mates to the upper via two steel dowel pins. Nothing was broken ... but you know, lets all panic and start claiming a rifle broke when it didn't.
GOOD LORD! You apparently missed the part about the magazine having NEVER BEEN DESIGNED TO ACCEPT MORE THAN FIVE ROUNDS.
The OEM SKS magazine is definitely designed to accept more than 5 rounds isn't it? Therefore the addition of a different mag doesn't change anything. The entire point of the Crypto is that it is a rifle that has been specifically designed only to accept magazines that have never been able to accept more than 5 rounds. I know this is a weird concept, but reading and comprehension is an actual thing.
My main concern would be a possible ban relating this to an AR-15. I think it's a good design and accuracy may very well be better then the other 180s which I've found great compared to the Bren. A few hundred lower would have been a more appealing price. Crusader has been getting better over the models and this having many shared AR parts I predict will run great.
DaveMachine
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- Location
- That one place with a cowboy complex
I think that depends on whether or not they used quality parts. For the price, I think one could expect high quality parts wherever AR15 parts are used like the BCG, barrel for example. Did they actually use high quality parts? I guess we'll find out once the beta testers start receiving their orders.
Ok I just wanted to make sure I understand what you are saying and now I can say 100 percent you are incorrect. Good.
What did I say that was incorrect?
Point to the section of the law that prohibits modifying a firearm to accept magazines from a different firearm.
New designs can't be DESIGNED to accept a magazine capable of holding more than 5 rounds. Where does it reference modification?
Modification of firearms in numerous different manners can change the classification of the firearm. It is not outside of reasonable thinking to consider that modifying a firearm specifically to circumvent the law might result in a change to that classification.
I said, "modifying the lower to accept AR15 mags would likely change it to prohibited status." which is not an unreasonable opinion.
Neither you nor I know exactly how the govt might react to the modification of a firearm designed only to accept a 5-round mag, in order to accept different magazines. That doesn't make me "100% incorrect".
PinaKaleada
CGN Regular
- Location
- South of most
But Bman12456 is basing his viewpoint on legality. You are basing yours on opinion. Anyone can have an opinion, but that’s not something I’d find useful.
Dexter Morgan
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We can certainly point you to the OIC that says AR-15s are prohibited.
The only thing making this "not an AR-15" is the fact that it can't take regular AR-15 magazines;
But then you want to modify it so it can take regular AR-15 magazines.
That would make it an AR-15.
wrong. there are two laws in place that they are trying to circumvent.
- AR15 ban. this has been done by ATRS and clones by designing different cut lines between the upper and lower so that an AR15 lower cannot fire a round on an ATRS upper and visa versa. Lockhart has done it similarly but also uses a two-piece lower to further differentiate it. Presume the Crypto is similar to the ATRS in their approach.
- magazine capacity. this is a new law which only applies to firearms that come to market since the law passed. it requires revisions to the magwell so that magazines with a capacity over 5 rounds cannot fit. the Crypto is the first out that has to conform to this law and their solution is the ridges and proprietary mags.
the magwell design has noting to do with the AR15 ban.
- AR15 ban. this has been done by ATRS and clones by designing different cut lines between the upper and lower so that an AR15 lower cannot fire a round on an ATRS upper and visa versa. Lockhart has done it similarly but also uses a two-piece lower to further differentiate it. Presume the Crypto is similar to the ATRS in their approach.
- magazine capacity. this is a new law which only applies to firearms that come to market since the law passed. it requires revisions to the magwell so that magazines with a capacity over 5 rounds cannot fit. the Crypto is the first out that has to conform to this law and their solution is the ridges and proprietary mags.
the magwell design has noting to do with the AR15 ban.
AlwaysLostInTheWoods
New member
- Location
- St Albert, Alberta, Canada
I think the receiver set looks more intencing that the whole rifle. Better to use parts that I know and trust rather than going full build. Anyone else thinking of pulling the trigger on the receiver only?
