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I’m curious why they didn’t wait for RCMP’s OK before selling any of thisFYI they are now offering the stripped upper and lower for sale on their website... for $999
I’m curious why they didn’t wait for RCMP’s OK before selling any of thisFYI they are now offering the stripped upper and lower for sale on their website... for $999
But the ATRS was retroactively deemed to be an AR-15 by the RCMP. So your argument has already failed.
"how does that affect my statement that the magwell design is not related to the ar15 ban?"
I would but my only concerns are sourcing a reasonably priced 18.6" barrel, one that wont push the costs above just buying the full rifle, and also properly headspacing the barrel and bolt, never done that before. Plus go/no go gauges, reaction rod, torque wrench etc would also push the costs up... imo stripped upper/lowers are ideal for those that have ARs cus the parts will literally be drop in.View attachment 797154
I think the receiver set looks more intencing that the whole rifle. Better to use parts that I know and trust rather than going full build. Anyone else thinking of pulling the trigger on the receiver only?
Because they dont have to? And also the "no refunds btw". The customers will be the ones stuck with paperweights if they decide to ban.I’m curious why they didn’t wait for RCMP’s OK before selling any of this
The main problem ATRS ran into was referencing AR10 which went from NR to Prohib, this does not seem to be following that formula.You are claiming that simply changing how the upper and lower pin together is enough to call it "Not an AR-15".
Clearly that is not the case. You need more than that.
It will always be designed for 5 rounds, and that seems to be the requirement. Plus the fact the lowers and uppers don't interchange with standard ar. When it comes to modifying firearms and as a result changing their classification, that change is always the result of a law that exists. I do not think there is a law that exists that rules on modifying the magwell of a firearm, like there is for things like reducing overall length, reducing barrel length, aftermarket bullpup stocks, etc.We can certainly point you to the OIC that says AR-15s are prohibited.
The only thing making this "not an AR-15" is the fact that it can't take regular AR-15 magazines;
But then you want to modify it so it can take regular AR-15 magazines.
That would make it an AR-15.
It must have approval or else I find it hard to imagine cru would be selling them as NR and taking cash. But hey they could be absolutely crazy and crooked....
When you it arrives can you let us know just what the difference is in the magwell ?Screw it....add to cart .... only $1200 for a receiver set. Wonder what the quality will be like
100% I will do a review.When you it arrives can you let us know just what the difference is in the magwell ?
No refunds after 48 hours is translating to "You're going to find big problems with the specs of this product and you'll be stuck with it because we don't give a f*ck."There hasn't been any approval. But there is this;
"No Refunds beyond 48hours of your order"
*Warranty on these are limited to Factory Defect Only (we can not be responsible for a rifle we do not assemble)
I don't think it is so much a question of making it work, as it is what kind of POS will you be left with once the fun of building is done? Those machining inconsistencies are cause for considerable concern about the quality of the interior finish. Just saying....If I can make a BCL kit work reliably I will be fine.
After dealing with the RCMP SFSS, I can say pretty confidently say that they will determine this is an AR-15 variant. It is essentially an ATRS Modern Sporter, which in the RCMP’s opinion is an AR-10/AR-15 variant.
Good on them for going ahead and ignoring the RCMP and selling it anyway, and I hope it all works out for them, but buyer beware.