CSAAA Resignation, Ryan Harriman

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Ipscshooters said:
Why doesn't the CSAAA just come out and say we have made a grave mistake?, we don't know what we were thinking and are pulling out and no longer helping the government ( that same government who has destroyed and will continue to destroy all of your business till you have nothing left )
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I think the firearms community would not only welcome this, but also be fairly gracious and forgiving. People and organizations make mistakes all the time; few have the intestinal fortitude and integrity to admit error. When it does happen, people can be surprisingly forgiving, as they will recognize everyone makes errors whether in action or judgment, from time to time.

But I think the CSAAA doing this will send an even stronger message, particularly if the Liberals/Mendicino completely mis-represented and misconstrued the arrangement/relationship, etc. But this will require CSAAA getting in front of this to explicitly state a retraction and reprimand Mendicino for not representing the "partnership" accurately. Given what I saw from last night's CBC interview with Wes Winkel, I have my doubts whether a widespread pulling out of the agreement will happen.
 
Ryan,

I trust you. The reality is the Government spin doctors will want to divide gun owners any way they can. they have been doing it for years - duck hunters and ISU type shooters vs black rifle shooters has been a thing since I have been a shooter. They have succeeded again. This media release has painted the CSAAA in a very bad light. the end result is it makes it look like dealers are more worried about their inventory vs the shooters. The thing is they are intertwined. We are all being worked over here and it sucks.

I respect your position.

Boltgun
 
It was a dumbass rookie ignorant decision to even entertain the government and their ideas.

Begging for forgiveness after making the dumbest ####ing mistake in the history of gun ownership just doesn’t cut it.

Apology or not, I really hope people boycott every board of directors business.. every dollar we don’t spend with willful traitors or amazingly ignorant people is good.

Lots of people accept your apology and resignation but I hope they realize it doesn’t cut it. You were complacent. Just because they called it something else when they were snoozing you doesn’t mean ####.

You had your eyes willingly shut when you saw the payday.
Both from the 700k I’m sure most of the directors will just pocket and then all the money that will be freed up on your inventory forget all your customers personally collections..

I will be doing everything in my power to make every one of the directors and their business known across all forums and social media’s… every dollar I can stop from going to any of you snakes is a giant win in my mind.
 
RyoTHC said:
It was a dumbass rookie ignorant decision to even entertain the government and their ideas.

Begging for forgiveness after making the dumbest ####ing mistake in the history of gun ownership just doesn’t cut it.

Apology or not, I really hope people boycott every board of directors business.. every dollar we don’t spend with willful traitors or amazingly ignorant people is good.

Lots of people accept your apology and resignation but I hope they realize it doesn’t cut it. You were complacent. Just because they called it something else when they were snoozing you doesn’t mean ####.

You had your eyes willingly shut when you saw the payday.
Both from the 700k I’m sure most of the directors will just pocket and then all the money that will be freed up on your inventory forget all your customers personally collections..

I will be doing everything in my power to make every one of the directors and their business known across all forums and social media’s… every dollar I can stop from going to any of you snakes is a giant win in my mind.
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God people on this forum are so stupid sometimes…

Did you not read OP? Lol
 
Chemist said:
Somethings I can't discuss due to NDA's but I think most of this should be OK. I knew there was a contract to assist dealers with inventory and if you read my second post I think it explains why there was and what it was for, not the lies the gov't told this morning. I've never heard of it called "1st step towards buyback". If it was officially called that I would be even more upset than I am today. I didn't know how much it was for. Maybe I should have, maybe I wasn't paying attention, I'm not sure but I had no memory of that sum until I saw it today in a post someone shared with me. I think most people think a board of directors is some all powerful group of people in the movies. There are 13 people on the CSAAA board I believe and only a few of them make up the executive of the board. The rest are directors at large.
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You guys have NDAs in place but don't know the fine details on a once-in-a-lifetime deal/partnership with the liberals directly affecting many firearm dealers? I'm on several large boards as president and director and if any of this happened we'd be replacing ALL those responsible regardless if the decisions made were correct or not.
 
WhenGatsAttack said:
God people on this forum are so stupid sometimes…

Did you not read OP? Lol
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How about you re read the OP.

NDA that he can’t disclose.. maybe that’s the info you’re looking for.
Not sure how the #### you believe 1/10 people on the board magically had no idea they were in cahoots with Justin and Marco.

Just like Odel jumping ship, it’s because they set it on fire without realizing of course they are going to abandon ship.
 
taeish said:
Seems like government is intending on tearing gun owners apart and it's working as intended
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This is a business decision. These businesses have decided that they need money for their banned inventory. It’s not the government tearing gun owners apart but the decision of firearms businesses to support a buyback for their own financial interests over the property rights of gun owners as a whole. They are free to make that decision since this is a free country but that doesn’t mean the rest of us should just welcome them back with open arms.
 
Thank you, Ryan... I was waiting for someone to come out with this, what really is going on, before posting anything. Looks like Trudeau's plan is working... divide and conquer. We, legal gun owners, should know better. We have come a long way and we need to stick together more now than ever. The main, most important thing now is to get rid of the liberal.
Awaiting anxiously for the next election.
Thanks again...
 
taeish said:
Seems like government is intending on tearing gun owners apart and it's working as intended
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They're smarter then we give credit. This is exactly their plan.

Dynas said:
This is a business decision. These businesses have decided that they need money for their banned inventory. It’s not the government tearing gun owners apart but the decision of firearms businesses to support a buyback for their own financial interests over the property rights of gun owners as a whole. They are free to make that decision since this is a free country but that doesn’t mean the rest of us should just welcome them back with open arms.
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But people support businesses and those fight among others. If a person still decides to support these business, you be tarred and feathered by those that refuse to. Thus tearing gun owners apart.
 
Chemist said:
I'm posting this in a separate message as I wanted to explain a bit about the CSAAA and what is going on with many dealers.

There has been a lot of talk about the CSAAA today. I'll start out by stating most of what was announced by the gov't this morning was twisted into some liberal propaganda and that I was caught totally off guard by most of the content of the announcement. When the announcement started with the gov't lying about the CSAAA helping them find 11,000 guns I knew it was going to be bad. That being said, most retailers and distributors have now prohibited firearms in their inventory that they can't sell. It's tying up capital and putting some of them in incredibly difficult financial positions. I know some people think a dealer makes tons of money but in reality there is 18-20% markup on a gun. That means if a dealer is stuck with $100,000 in prohibited inventory they have to sell over $1,000,000 of other items to make up for that loss as profit in a gun store is less than 10% once you factor in labour, insurance, utilities etc. I wish it was higher but it isn't. Imagine loosing a year or two of revenue due to the OIC. The CSAAA was contracted to assist dealers that wanted assistance with figuring out what inventory was prohibited or non saleable due to the OIC. If a dealer didn't want to be included or didn't want help then they wouldn't be in the data.

I know it sounds like the CSAAA was helping the gov't but that was never the intent of the CSAAA...although it looks terrible looking in from out outside. They wanted to help many struggling dealers who are on the brink of bankruptcy, have reduced in size, are behind on payments etc with getting rid of dead inventory so their businesses could survive. Not everyone is in that position but many are. SFRC for instance has over $500,000 in prohibited firearms and products we are sitting on and can no longer sell. The CSAAA wasn't setting prices, picking up guns, etc, they were contracted to help dealers that wanted assistance with figuring out what they hand in inventory and passing that data on to the gov't if the dealer wanted. Anything else you read or see online is a lie.

Personally speaking, I don't see a buy back happening for dealers of individuals any time soon. Even if the data was compiled it would more than likely be years before anyone sees a dime...if ever.

To the person that made the bud lite/CSAAA meme, you deserve a medal. It made me laugh on this crappy day.
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Thanks for your service.
You should hold your head high.
 
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6ohmoney said:
Why isn't sfrc parting out the oic firearms? Rdsc has stated they are able to recoup their cost this way and would rather leave them on the shelf then pair up with the libs. They even offer to buy your parts from oic firearms. You should hit them up rather then bc if your just leaving them on the shelf that's bad business. I've parted out a few of my oic firearms and been able to recoup some dollars...
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We have parted out lots of them and we have recouped money from them but we are still sitting on 100's of AR15's. Mini 14's, etc. The issue is they aren't worth as much in parts any more as that market is flooded. If the if/when the gov't brings in the next round of bans you're going to see more small business close. People probably think most businesses fight with each other but in reality most of us chat all the time. There are a bunch of business that have told me they are hanging on by a thread right now.
 
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RyoTHC said:
How about you re read the OP.

NDA that he can’t disclose.. maybe that’s the info you’re looking for.
Not sure how the #### you believe 1/10 people on the board magically had no idea they were in cahoots with Justin and Marco.

Just like Odel jumping ship, it’s because they set it on fire without realizing of course they are going to abandon ship.
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Take a look at post 37, I think it explains it. I said the NDA didn't cover anything I was discussing not that I couldn't discuss things due to an NDA.
 
Chemist said:
We have parted out lots of them and we have recouped money from them but we are still sitting on 100's of AR15's. Mini 14's, etc. The issue is they aren't worth as much in parts any more as that market is flooded. If the if/when the gov't brings in the next round of bans you're going to see more small business close. People probably think most businesses fight with each other but in reality most of us chat all the time. There are a bunch of business that have told me they are hanging on by a thread right now.
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Thanks for the explanation!
 
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