Euthenising an injured deer; ethics vs legality

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Brian46 said:
I have had to fight for my innocence in court and won. It is very costly and time consuming, it also puts strain on your family and relationships with other people. Quite often damaged beyond repair by the time you get your day in court no matter the outcome. Our society today is such that if you have been accused of something people think you did it no matter what happens in court.

I don't see a need to put myself on the wrong side of the law on purpose when I have seen what it can do to an innocent person and adversley what it can do to someone when they end an animals suffering as you suggest.
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Some will do the "right" thing while being smart about it and not worry about the consequence's. Others will go through life constantly worrying about the consequence's to every little thing.

I know where I stand. Neither is right or wrong.
 
Brian46 said:
who said anything about a rifle being the legality issue?
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Well, that was the initial thought.
If you are worried about putting a deer down with anything else and going to court, i would like to see the transcripts because frankly I think it's a load of crap.
As I stated earlier , Iive put down a few over the years, and there was NEVER an issue form anybody, public or LEO, F&W , nobody.
I may live in a place where people think logically and with practicality in mind.
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Gunexpert007 said:
Just put the animal out of its' misery .......if worse comes to worse , the Judge can decide if what you did was ethical or not......it is certainly not ethical to let an animal suffer.....
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The odds of the judge deciding based on ethics or using common sense instead of a strictly legal ruling are infinitesimal to none... :rolleyes:

And I have to admit to being extremely irritated by the thought of having to get "permission" to do the right thing!!! :mad: Welcome to the modern age of the Socialist Republic of Kanada!! :mad:
 
As with most laws they are meant to address the actions of the lowest common denominator...those that would abuse what you figure common sense would prevent. It's not hard to see how some would use this as a loophole to illegally take game. As for those that do the right thing...I suspect most do it quietly and discreetly....likely the way it should be done.
 
I'm not saying I've done this, and I'm not saying I know of others who have.
But I sure as heck wouldn't be telling anyone outside of my wife if I did.
 
I killed a calf moose with an axe when I was 17 - we had just finishing gutting a cow (that has been hit by our family friend going to the airport in Timmins in the early morning hours) when the light came up we noticed a calf laying in the ditch apx 100 yards away, as I approached it, it did not move so, I went and grabbed the axe and gave the little beast a headache. Being a novice hunter at the time I figured I just harvested a moose (It happened to be moose season at the time) before I ran into town to grab my tag we pulled the calf out of the ditch and found it had two broken rear legs (reason it didn't move??) Was a pretty exciting morning for my buddy and I - we didn't do much more moose hunting that year.
 
sheephunter said:
As with most laws they are meant to address the actions of the lowest common denominator...those that would abuse what you figure common sense would prevent. It's not hard to see how some would use this as a loophole to illegally take game.
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Or how the law would be used to make an example of someone when the passer by that reports you is an animal rights activist that is also a higher up government employee.

It is a bad law IMO, but it remains on the books so it can be used to make examples. In Alaska the motorist that hit the animal gets first right to take the roadkill home and if they don't want it, It is picked up and goes to the homeless shelters for food

There are other laws in regards to poaching that would apply to illegally taken game regardless of the method (vehicle, bullet, axe, stick, boat, rock, etc)
 
No other laws that would permit you shooting an animal on the side of the road though...not hard to see how that could be abused. I suspect common sense would prevail but no doubt there is the odd over zealous peace officer. Best to call in first and avoid the hassle.
 
I've put a deer down after hitting it with my truck. I called the local RCMP and was told to dispatch the animal and remove it from the road. I suspect the RCMP would be less understanding if I hadn't called first.;)
 
Not sure where this fits in but a couple of years ago on a dark fall night our attention was drawn to the road at the front of our property. Cars parked at the driveway but that happens on occasion. Then, red/blue lights are flashing and a couple of minutes later, pop! pop! pop! A few seconds later pop!pop! Seems someone hit a deer that tried to cross the road. Local cops showed up and then took shots at the injured animal while it was still under the car. I can imagine the reports filed that night.
 
FALover said:
Not sure where this fits in but a couple of years ago on a dark fall night our attention was drawn to the road at the front of our property. Cars parked at the driveway but that happens on occasion. Then, red/blue lights are flashing and a couple of minutes later, pop! pop! pop! A few seconds later pop!pop! Seems someone hit a deer that tried to cross the road. Local cops showed up and then took shots at the injured animal while it was still under the car. I can imagine the reports filed that night.
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When I was a kid, watched a couple of Calgary city cops chase a Bob Cat around a community hockey rink, trying to hit it, with their Wobbly Webblies. ;) Think it finally died of fright.

Grizz
 
The last time I tried to call in about an injured deer on the highway it turned into a bunch of passing the buck. I started with the RCMP and was told to call the CO. Called the CO and he told me to call the RCMP. I guess to much effort and paper work involved. I just hung up, clubbed the deer, threw it in the back of the truck and took it home for the dogs.

The dogs didn't mind getting involved!!!
 
bearkilr said:
It used to be free for some animals like road killed deer, it's called a "Dead Wild Animal Possession Permit". I think now they're $10 or so, depending on if it's for educational use or not.
Most CO's are pretty cool with signing off on them as long as you're truthful. Often they'll want to inspect the carcass and there used to be stories of them X-raying raptors looking for pellets. Some animals they won't give out permits for, such as certain hawks and owls, unless it's for educational purposes like a school/university. This would also be the permit you need for having taxidermy work done on a protected species you've found dead, like a bald eagle for example.
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This post isn't entirely factual. The birds that they won't give you a permit for are Eagles, Bald and Golden for sure. When I tried to get a permit for the golden eagle I picked up, I was told by the Ministry of Natural resource that the only people allowed to possess the body or feathers of an eagle are Natives for spiritual rituals and Universities/Museums for educational purposes. This is a law that covers all of Canada as far as I know.
As for owls, I have two mounts. One Great Horned Owl who died of carbon monoxide poisoning from sitting to close to the chimney of the shop my dad worked at and the other is a juvenile Snowy Owl that had starved last winter because of the heavy snow and cold temperatures, a friend actually picked it up and gave him to me. My friend Lyndon has a Great Grey Owl mount, it was found last winter after starving as well.
Hawks I am not sure of as I have never ask about them.

As for the actual topic of the thread, I have been lucky enough to have never had to euthanize an injured wild animal. If it ever does happen I will most likely call a CO and get permission to do so.
 
There was a raccoon hit just In front of me tonight, it was hurt bad and dying. If I had a rifle, I would have stopped to deliver the coup de grace. I almost went back back, but the idea of using my lunch pail prevented me.
 
I've only hit 2 deer, but both were in a semi, and both were quite dead after.
I'm not sure I'd know how to put a deer out of it's misery with a knife if I had to. It's probably not rocket surgery though.
 
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