FINALLY got a 1919a4!!! Finally ran a belt, video in post 101...
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NavyShooter
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Kevin,
Will .30-06 link work with .308 ammo?
NS
Will .30-06 link work with .308 ammo?
NS
Yes, fits no problem.
I'm not sure linkwise, but I know that 7.62x39 also fits perfectly into the cloth belts. I would love a conversion for that caliber, as I have buttloads of crates stacked up for it, but I lack the skills to pull it off. It would make an awesome shooter/ plinker for the range dont ya think?
Prohib. Spade grips are good to go though.
Made it myself out of some heavy 3/16" flat bar from my local metal store, profiled it to fit on the side inverted triangle of the 1919 where the three screw brackets are, drilled and prepped them, and bent it with a vice and a heck of a lot of hammering. I then installed a short picatinny rail to the top, rounded all sharp edges and installed it with the bolts and lock washers to prevent them coming loose during fire. Mounted it high enough that I can still use the standard battle irons, however I have to remove the mount if I want to use the graduated irons.
Total cost about $45.00, time, about 3 hours. Works awesome and fit the look of the gun surprisingly well. I didn't even parkerize it, looks almost good enough as is.
Did you make a key on your bracket to engage the cut in the base? I was thinking that if a lug was fitted to the bracket so that it indexed on the base, thumb screws could be used to make the bracket quickly detachable.
The three holes on mine seem to be 1/4-28.
A reflex sight makes a lot of sense; no issue with eye relief.
The three holes on mine seem to be 1/4-28.
A reflex sight makes a lot of sense; no issue with eye relief.
NavyShooter
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Jay,
I forgot to mention....WELCOME TO THE CLUB.
A few simple rules for the Canadian 1919 owner:
1. Headspace and Timing. Headspace and Timing. Headspace and Timing. I have a spare gauge set for the C1/C5 if you'd like it. Shoot me a PM.
2. Stockpile Ammo. If you see a good deal, JUMP. Don't think twice. Believe me, you'll need it.
3. Share and share alike. If someone asks, have a few spare rounds linked up to brighten their day too. Not everyone can afford a 1919, but they sure can chip in on ammo. First few rounds (always have a short belt) are free (5-8 usually) if they want more, they'd better chip in....it is, only reasonable.
4. FRT Number is listed here: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...T-Numbers-for-Non-Restricted-Black-Red-Rifles Technetwork, TNW, Browning M1919A ... 64204.1 (30-06), 64204.2 (7.62mm) Print this off and have it with you. If you can have a copy of the FRT Page, get that too. (When I built mine, I stamped it on the bottom of the receiver.)
5. Photos are required on CGN. It will make everyone else green with envy....part of the joy of being a 1919 Owner.
Others may have more to add, but this is a good start.
Supplementary points.
-Optics. It's on my "to do" list, but so far, all I've done is get the gun roughly aligned using the iron sights, then correct based on splash/fall of shot. Accuracy through volume.
-Belt Loading. I have one a couple of *BRAND NEW* 1919 cloth belts, WWII dated, and they are impossible to load by hand. I've got my ear open for a 1919 Belt Loader, but haven't seen one at a good price yet.
Enjoy your toy, and I should probably take mine out in the woods for a day this hunting season too....just so I can say I did!
NS
I forgot to mention....WELCOME TO THE CLUB.
A few simple rules for the Canadian 1919 owner:
1. Headspace and Timing. Headspace and Timing. Headspace and Timing. I have a spare gauge set for the C1/C5 if you'd like it. Shoot me a PM.
2. Stockpile Ammo. If you see a good deal, JUMP. Don't think twice. Believe me, you'll need it.
3. Share and share alike. If someone asks, have a few spare rounds linked up to brighten their day too. Not everyone can afford a 1919, but they sure can chip in on ammo. First few rounds (always have a short belt) are free (5-8 usually) if they want more, they'd better chip in....it is, only reasonable.
4. FRT Number is listed here: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...T-Numbers-for-Non-Restricted-Black-Red-Rifles Technetwork, TNW, Browning M1919A ... 64204.1 (30-06), 64204.2 (7.62mm) Print this off and have it with you. If you can have a copy of the FRT Page, get that too. (When I built mine, I stamped it on the bottom of the receiver.)
5. Photos are required on CGN. It will make everyone else green with envy....part of the joy of being a 1919 Owner.
Others may have more to add, but this is a good start.
Supplementary points.
-Optics. It's on my "to do" list, but so far, all I've done is get the gun roughly aligned using the iron sights, then correct based on splash/fall of shot. Accuracy through volume.
-Belt Loading. I have one a couple of *BRAND NEW* 1919 cloth belts, WWII dated, and they are impossible to load by hand. I've got my ear open for a 1919 Belt Loader, but haven't seen one at a good price yet.
Enjoy your toy, and I should probably take mine out in the woods for a day this hunting season too....just so I can say I did!
NS
NavyShooter
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6. Let the gun cool before packing it away at the end of a shoot. Melted foam cases are a badness thing.
7. Related to #6. Bring a spray can/bottle of oil to cool the gun down after a shoot. Get a .30 Cal string pull through (note, not a bore-snake) to pull a wet patch or two through the barrel before you leave the range to help cool, and to get some oil on the bore.
7. Related to #6. Bring a spray can/bottle of oil to cool the gun down after a shoot. Get a .30 Cal string pull through (note, not a bore-snake) to pull a wet patch or two through the barrel before you leave the range to help cool, and to get some oil on the bore.
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Optics are good if your stationary but I don't think they would help on mine
Optics are good if your stationary but I don't think they would help on mine
Actually, I think a reflex site would be awesome for your use. Faster target aquisition then irons.
maple_leaf_eh
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The airborne boy has a M1919A4 and is in Eastern Ontario. He's had the gun at EOHC milsurp matches before. He's had a lot of problems and found a lot of solutions. He may be able to coach.
In my machine gunning days, we learned the gun works better when it is wetter. Plenty of light machine oil to keep the parts floating and friction free. That posting about slobbering oil through the barrel is on the button. Second thing, NATO spec ammo was never a problem when it came off the ammo truck. But commercial ammo is not the same. Apparently MFS is too short to engage the extractor every time. Good to hear your Portuguese is working well.
In my machine gunning days, we learned the gun works better when it is wetter. Plenty of light machine oil to keep the parts floating and friction free. That posting about slobbering oil through the barrel is on the button. Second thing, NATO spec ammo was never a problem when it came off the ammo truck. But commercial ammo is not the same. Apparently MFS is too short to engage the extractor every time. Good to hear your Portuguese is working well.
I have always headspaced the 1919 with the barrel and extension in the gun, rather then it out. From full lock-up, 1-2 clicks out for 30-06 and 2-4 clicks out for .308, depending on ammo mfg.. I have only used the Norinco .308 and found 3 clicks out worked well for me. I have never used one of those headspacing tools and see no point to, for a semi gun. Now with the full-auto guns you need to make sure your headspacing is right but having the timing set is more important or else Kaboom!!!
I do agree with the others when they suggest stock up on ammo. You tend to go through it quickly with a belt-fed.
There are quite a few good videos to be found on youtube in regards to headspacing and disassembly of the 1919. Study how it is suppose to function. The better you understand that, the better you will be able to tell when something is not working right.
Checking the headspacing should be a regular part of your routine each time you take the gun out to the range. It only takes a couple minutes to do and can save lots of grief. Parts do break from time to time so having a spare set of certain parts with you at all time, incase something does break, can save your day at the range. I know this since it happened to me recently. Marstar does sell some spare parts but not all.
Here is a good video to watch for the headspacing method I prefer to use. Just remove the space between the "h and t". h ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m07ZcxpHNgo&feature=channel&list=UL
I do agree with the others when they suggest stock up on ammo. You tend to go through it quickly with a belt-fed.
There are quite a few good videos to be found on youtube in regards to headspacing and disassembly of the 1919. Study how it is suppose to function. The better you understand that, the better you will be able to tell when something is not working right.
Checking the headspacing should be a regular part of your routine each time you take the gun out to the range. It only takes a couple minutes to do and can save lots of grief. Parts do break from time to time so having a spare set of certain parts with you at all time, incase something does break, can save your day at the range. I know this since it happened to me recently. Marstar does sell some spare parts but not all.
Here is a good video to watch for the headspacing method I prefer to use. Just remove the space between the "h and t". h ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m07ZcxpHNgo&feature=channel&list=UL
Jay,
I forgot to mention....WELCOME TO THE CLUB.
A few simple rules for the Canadian 1919 owner:
1. Headspace and Timing. Headspace and Timing. Headspace and Timing. I have a spare gauge set for the C1/C5 if you'd like it. Shoot me a PM.
2. Stockpile Ammo. If you see a good deal, JUMP. Don't think twice. Believe me, you'll need it.
3. Share and share alike. If someone asks, have a few spare rounds linked up to brighten their day too. Not everyone can afford a 1919, but they sure can chip in on ammo. First few rounds (always have a short belt) are free (5-8 usually) if they want more, they'd better chip in....it is, only reasonable.
4. FRT Number is listed here: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...T-Numbers-for-Non-Restricted-Black-Red-Rifles Technetwork, TNW, Browning M1919A ... 64204.1 (30-06), 64204.2 (7.62mm) Print this off and have it with you. If you can have a copy of the FRT Page, get that too. (When I built mine, I stamped it on the bottom of the receiver.)
5. Photos are required on CGN. It will make everyone else green with envy....part of the joy of being a 1919 Owner.
Others may have more to add, but this is a good start.
Supplementary points.
-Optics. It's on my "to do" list, but so far, all I've done is get the gun roughly aligned using the iron sights, then correct based on splash/fall of shot. Accuracy through volume.
-Belt Loading. I have one a couple of *BRAND NEW* 1919 cloth belts, WWII dated, and they are impossible to load by hand. I've got my ear open for a 1919 Belt Loader, but haven't seen one at a good price yet.
Enjoy your toy, and I should probably take mine out in the woods for a day this hunting season too....just so I can say I did!
NS
Thanks NS, I appreciate the offer. I have a headspace & timing gauge, maybe someone else needs it? (THIS is why CGN is AWESOME! Guys helping each other out!)
I currently have about 3 k in ammo, a mix of Portugese Nato, Turkish Nato & Chinese 7.62x51 Ball...
I totally agree! The first time I had it out, it was me, my brother & 3 other guys at the range. ALL of us shot it! Mind you, I shot it first... Then my brother, then the other two guys shooting WHEN the owner of the property showed up (Ray/EOSC) as we were packing up AND I PULLED IT ALL BACK OUT & insisted he shoot it to! Man the smiles on their faces was AWESOME!
Will post more pics from the next range trip(s)...
I'd still like someone to answer my question about removing the firing pin & headspacing the gun with a chambered cartridge... Is this how I can set the headspace to get the gun to run the Chinese ammo???
Cheers & THANKS guys!
Jay
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NavyShooter
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Which spring do you have???
NavyShooter
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Of note, if you have the spring on the left in the photo above, then headspacing is a bit more difficult with the barrel in the gun.
I bring a screwdriver with me, and headspace at the range. It's a simple matter of clicking out until it loads/locks properly.
NS
I bring a screwdriver with me, and headspace at the range. It's a simple matter of clicking out until it loads/locks properly.
NS
If I may play dumb for a moment....how/why do/would you check timing on a semi-auto gun?
My buddy's eats PPU ammo flawlessly at 2 clicks out from lock-up.
Reloads run not too bad but, for whatever reason, likes to have the links to be fed backwards
NavyShooter
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Using the timing gauges.
You don't want any possibility of the gun firing out of battery....right? That's what timing is all about.
Suppose you're uber-fast on the trigger (not necessarily a *BAD* thing with a belt-fed) but if the engagement is such that the gun is capable of firing before it's properly locked, then that is a badness thing.
Timing is simply a measure that prevents the gun from firing before the breech is locked....and it's a good thing to verify. Even on a Semi.
NS
You don't want any possibility of the gun firing out of battery....right? That's what timing is all about.
Suppose you're uber-fast on the trigger (not necessarily a *BAD* thing with a belt-fed) but if the engagement is such that the gun is capable of firing before it's properly locked, then that is a badness thing.
Timing is simply a measure that prevents the gun from firing before the breech is locked....and it's a good thing to verify. Even on a Semi.
NS
