Gun Club Qualifications?

I shoot at a small indoor range on the outskirts of town, with a metal backstop behind the targets, and I can understand why range owners in similar situations would require new shooters to be able to keep their shots within the area of the backstop, as defined by the bed sheet of the target so you can at least confirm some kind of hit. If you aren't capable of hitting the bed sheet with your gun, you are capable of putting bullets god knows where. I would recommend joining another club, at least to develop a basic skill level with the larger calibre guns, and perhaps come back to this club when you're capable of meeting the requirements.

I don't think expecting a basic level of safety with firearms (if the range location and construction requires it) is out of line.
 
EdGCNM said:
I shoot at a small indoor range on the outskirts of town, with a metal backstop behind the targets, and I can understand why range owners in similar situations would require new shooters to be able to keep their shots within the area of the backstop, as defined by the bed sheet of the target so you can at least confirm some kind of hit. If you aren't capable of hitting the bed sheet with your gun, you are capable of putting bullets god knows where. I would recommend joining another club, at least to develop a basic skill level with the larger calibre guns, and perhaps come back to this club when you're capable of meeting the requirements.

I don't think expecting a basic level of safety with firearms (if the range location and construction requires it) is out of line.
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it's not.. but that is not what was being discussed actually. Anyone that thinks that is it ok if you can't even hit a "bed sheet" is definitely not using common sense. Sadly though there are those going way overboard in the opposite direction.
 
Drop that club like a sack of manure. We go through enough BS as gun owners in canada. Elitist gun owners and gun clubs are just as bad for us and our sport as the antis. Find a better club. They aren't all retarded.
 
I've looked into rejoining 2 clubs that I used to belong to for 5+ years. They both want me to redo their club safety course and supervised probation shoots/qualification shoots.
 
This is a 4 year old post, but any club that requires shooting skill for membership won't be around long. CPFO mandated club level courses are about range safety and a probationary period is to see if the FNG is serious and safe on said range. Not about his skill level.
 
sunray said:
This is a 4 year old post, but any club that requires shooting skill for membership won't be around long. CPFO mandated club level courses are about range safety and a probationary period is to see if the FNG is serious and safe on said range. Not about his skill level.
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Indeed.. esp since that could very well eliminate most newbies easily.. that is the typical FUDDish BS at some places though.
 
sunray said:
This is a 4 year old post, but any club that requires shooting skill for membership won't be around long. CPFO mandated club level courses are about range safety and a probationary period is to see if the FNG is serious and safe on said range. Not about his skill level.
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That's weird because the club has been there for a very long time... And indoor ranges do require some level of skill or understanding of your skill to prevent damage to the club both physically and to thier reputation.

It's simple the .22 is to make sure you can physically pull the trigger consistently enough to group your shots, the larger calibers are to make sure you can manage recoil. I did my 22 then a 357 then a 454 and am fine for everything now and it wasent overly difficult
 
skip1600 said:
That's weird because the club has been there for a very long time... And indoor ranges do require some level of skill or understanding of your skill to prevent damage to the club both physically and to thier reputation.

It's simple the .22 is to make sure you can physically pull the trigger consistently enough to group your shots, the larger calibers are to make sure you can manage recoil. I did my 22 then a 357 then a 454 and am fine for everything now and it wasent overly difficult
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Fair enough.. but that is not about "skill" per se... but about being able to aim in a general direction w/o causing unintended damage to anything in the path of the firearm. Some clubs go insane with small targets and demanding good accuracy from even a newb... which is a learned skill...
 
Shalimar said:
Fair enough.. but that is not about "skill" per se... but about being able to aim in a general direction w/o causing unintended damage to anything in the path of the firearm. Some clubs go insane with small targets and demanding good accuracy from even a newb... which is a learned skill...
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The club in question doesn't require you to hit the target at all. You shots must group in a 9x9 (or something like that) square anywhere on you target .

Again more about no holes in the walls or roof
 
That's just not right. To me, gun safety is a must but that is just a money grabbing scheme the club cooked up.

skip1600 said:
The club in question doesn't require you to hit the target at all. You shots must group in a 9x9 (or something like that) square anywhere on you target .

Again more about no holes in the walls or roof
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skip1600 said:
The club in question doesn't require you to hit the target at all. You shots must group in a 9x9 (or something like that) square anywhere on you target .

Again more about no holes in the walls or roof
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And for a total newb that is realistically what it should be.. accuracy comes with practice.. not damaging anything you should not comes via common sense and a lil training.

(what club?)
 
L1911 said:
That's just not right. To me, gun safety is a must but that is just a money grabbing scheme the club cooked up.
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But that is firearms safety.. it's about muzzle control and not hitting an unintended target esp for newbs. If the requirement is for them to do a 2" grouping at 15 yards.. that only discourages the newbs..

So long as they are capable of controlling the muzzle direction within reason (no swinging the firearm around etc etc of course).. and don't do damage to the "property" then that is the beginning of safe handling. Accuracy is not as important as basic safe handling to say the least esp for a newb.
 
L1911 said:
That's just not right. To me, gun safety is a must but that is just a money grabbing scheme the club cooked up.
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What money? The use of club guns is free and you buy your own ammo.. While volunteers give you pointers on your shooting and how to improve.

I agree that 12 shoots seems like a lot but the damage I've seen to our club is significantly less than other lower ceiling indoor ranges. So I'd have to think the process has some value
 
I think this is getting misread some how? The OP went on about aurora making you graduate calibers at full range.
If you would go back and read the threads, Most clubs all have a probational period, to see if you are a common sense shooter in safety and you can handle a firearm physically as skip1600 explains. you have to remember taking an rpal does not even give you the taste of GSR. and someone wants to drop down 300 on a membership go out and buy a .50cal desert eagle and start banging away with no experience? I do not want that guy beside me or actually on the range with me. when he gets excited forgets the basics the hot brass lands down his shirt, forgets to take his finger out of trigger gaurd, shoots the floor the ceiling or worse the guy next to him.
keep in mind I do not think he should go to jail after that because it was only a mistake and lack of time on .22 and all it takes is 12 probational shoots with a RO and supervision to help with learning to take your time concentrate and enjoy without a mishap. it is only twelve shoots and by then if you cannot hit a 20x20 target at 25 meters with a .22 you should keep practicing, I know the biggest PITA is wait for your pal, then wait for your rpal, then wait for club safety, then wait for cssa course then wait for firearm transfer, then wait for ATT. It sucks
 
muddog said:
This thread is a little outdated, But I have to chime in. I belong to three clubs in GTA area including aurora, The qualification is not hard at all. And once you qualify at hitting a bed sheet at 25 meters within your twelve probie shoots with a .22, you can do it your first night! and move on to a larger caliber with their firearms. the idea is to take your time and not be a banger when shooting and develop your skills being new to shooting for most probies. They encourage fun and mostly safety. .22 is a very dirty gun and you get FTF, FTE. and it makes great sense to pratice that alot before graduating to larger calibers for newbies. OP I assumed you qualified? with the .22 why did you not use the club gun larger caliber until you finished your 12 probie shoots? I have seen 8yr olds hit the bed sheet at full range anywhere on the the sheet to qualify. after you finished only 12 signed in shoots you have proved you had handled the probie shoots safely they will issue your membership and your ATT quickly. the ceilings are much higher that 6ft 1inch, lol come on stop the bashing. every time I go there it is a very friendly range. And I hate to mention the shooting sports are meant for accuracy, lol. not hitting a 2x4 target at 15ft. like police practice. lol Clubs like positive people not negative people.
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Exactly this! Aurora is a great club with a great bunch of guys running it. Stop bashing it. Where else can you find a members only club within 30-45 mins of the GTA that doesn't cost much money and you can do IPSC or any other discipline there. Its not the biggest, but it certainly gets the job done. (Except no rifle calibers :))
 
What money grabbing scheme? they do not charge extra for that, you do not qualify you do not pay?
I have yet to see anyone not qualify, By the way shooting is about marksmanship from time of concept.
Unless of course you prefer fully automatics,
remember when you first got a 2 or 3 MOA did you hang it up ? show it to your wife,girlfriend, after that it is about tighter groups, reloading for some as I do,



L1911 said:
That's just not right. To me, gun safety is a must but that is just a money grabbing scheme the club cooked up.
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