If everyone passes then why waste everyone's time?
Gun Club Qualifications?
- Thread starter Rupert
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If everyone passes then why waste everyone's time?
I still am a member there and not after 12 shoots. you must have qualified earlier and withing the twelve shoots while waiting for your ATT to bring your own restrict, you could use the guns of the club in 9mm cz or beretta etc. then go to the colt gold cup etc. I understand what you are saying if you have been a shooter moving from another club. when I first went there, I qualified with there .22 in the first shoot was difficult as not familiar with their guns. which there are many varieties of quality guns. and yes they do not clean all the time and .22 are dirty and act up.
but right after I was able to use any of my firearms as I had an existing ATT with other clubs and being an RO.
I have shot across canada and in the U.S. and every club has their rules and set ups.
LMAO, again you are missing the point. This is mainly for new shooters to get a good grasp on firearm saftey and comfort level. Then they have all the power to go to whatever caliber that makes them happy.
one strong 7yr old girl to hold up an M4 or AR15.
And for PPC, cowboy, 3gun and ipsc, I have never seen a club let anyone shoot in a comp or practice with out lessons before unless BB certified. I have been to allot of shoots.
And for PPC, cowboy, 3gun and ipsc, I have never seen a club let anyone shoot in a comp or practice with out lessons before unless BB certified. I have been to allot of shoots.
thenewbieglockguy
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Ontario (GTA)
This is just getting ridiculous now... If you don't like how the club runs things, fine. You are entitled to your own opinion. It has been running just fine until one person didn't like how qualifications are done. Well, he made up his mind and choose to go somewhere else. End of story. Life goes on and everyone is happy.
I have been to a lot of shoots all across western Canada and have never seen required "lessons" before shooting. I have in fact run some of these shoots in Sask and required no previous "lessons"
As for sanctioned matches in some disciplines, a course maybe required. But that is another topic all together and is more about teaching the rules of the particular sport than anything else.
Shawn
My thoughts exactly!
you mean to tell me, I can come visit your club, don a holster, and just shoot with no experience and not pass a club safety if I do not have my Black badge?
Rules are 90 percent safety and 10 percent timer and hit your target without crossing boundries? Am I wrong?
when you shoot it does not matter if you hit your target or where your bullets go? just have fun? LOL
In the club mentioned here, when they finish their probie shoot they can all hit their Targets and they are doing that very safely.
Rules are 90 percent safety and 10 percent timer and hit your target without crossing boundries? Am I wrong?
when you shoot it does not matter if you hit your target or where your bullets go? just have fun? LOL
In the club mentioned here, when they finish their probie shoot they can all hit their Targets and they are doing that very safely.
Some ranges do seem to do a cash grab, paying for safety class $100, paying for a shooting test for handguns $75, paying for a shooting test with a rifle $75... looks like some just want to see your RPAL and let you have at er... after all you should know all your safety with that. I would be ok with a short safety lecture and maybe a simple supervised one off shoot. But yeah sometimes I think it might be more about money than safety. How can we make an extra $300? Hummmmmm
I hope they are taking shifts, sooner or later a guy needs to breathe.
I don't know about shawn's club, but that is how it works at my current club as well as the one before that. My experience is that the new guys typically ask for help on things they are unsure of and the veteran shooters are very helpful in teaching them the basics and keeping it all safe. We don't seem to need extra rules, courses or red tape.
Mark
Yup, all 2400 of us, and in the last nearly 100 years, the only incident involving someone injuring themselves at the range was a police ERT instructor, on a closed range teaching other trained police officers. To be fair, that was a bit of an oddity involving some very fast, very close, shooting. Oh yes, and you don't need to be a member to do that, you can do it on a day card too.
thenewbieglockguy
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Ontario (GTA)
Come on. Have you ever been to the club mentioned? Do you know what its like there? Do you know why the board has put these rules in place? Stop making assumptions. Everything is running fine. I'm sure we are just as good as you guys out west with your ERT instructors and whatnot. Also, can any other person who is a member of a pistol club in Ontario please tell me where you don't have to pass some sort of club level safety course/qualification test?
I am a member of 2 clubs in Ontario. I only did the CSSA ATT course at one club. It was about 4 hours and then to the range to shoot a few .22 handguns. After that, I was good to go, any caliber, any time with no probation period. The second club accepted that ATT qualification and issued my restricted club access pass with no probation.
Multiple "probation" shoots are for kids & total noobs. I think these rule are made by people who like making rules. As far as I'm concerned, you can prove your competence during 1 session. If there is a problem, schedule another. If someone who is experienced and demonstrates that the first time out, the club babysitter should just sign off. This mandated 12 (or whatever number) of scheduled, supervised probation shoots is pretty ghey!!
Yep, just like hundreds of other ranges. Gasp we also allow shooting on the move.
Shawn
It's like being trapped in another dimension
but if the alternative is way too tight and over-restricted, I'll stay
