Hunting Accuracy?

Most shooters have zero ability to judge ranges accurately without a rangefinder. That being said, many have no idea about the trajectory/parabola of the cartridge they're shooting or even the velocity of said cartridge.

Throw mirage, cross winds, down drafts, reflection, angle, etc., into the equation, and it means at best a miss, and at worst a badly wounded animal, usually unrecovered, wandering off to die very painfully.
 
Most shooters have zero ability to judge ranges accurately without a rangefinder. That being said, many have no idea about the trajectory/parabola of the cartridge they're shooting or even the velocity of said cartridge.

Throw mirage, cross winds, down drafts, reflection, angle, etc., into the equation, and it means at best a miss, and at worst a badly wounded animal, usually unrecovered, wandering off to die very painfully.
I think those custom turrets are the worst thing going for animals out there, or maybe the best thing depending on how you look at it. I’ve seen many guys write down the velocity written on the box and get the custom turret. Then shoot a 4’ plate of steel at 500 metres and say they’re good to hunt out to 500 or beyond.
 
I ran into one of our supervisors at the range awhile ago and just exchanged the regular hi. When I saw him at work I asked him how the shooting was and he asked me if it was possible that a loose muzzle break could cause accuracy issues. As the conversation moved along he told me he was out hunting deer with his kids for a week or two and couldn’t hit nudding. He shot at deer from 3 hundred and something yards to 1087. He blamed all of his missed opportunities on his new scope, the old scope was first focal plane and the new one was second. He held 4 feet hi on the 1087 shot, but if he would’ve held 7 he would’ve got em. I told him I was shooting 1000metres the day I saw him and I was corrected over 25 feet. He muddered something about his rifle shooting way flatter than mine…. His nest move was to go buy one of those burris scopes that takes in the environmentals and spits out an automatic correction. To each their own i guess.
 
I ran into one of our supervisors at the range awhile ago and just exchanged the regular hi. When I saw him at work I asked him how the shooting was and he asked me if it was possible that a loose muzzle break could cause accuracy issues. As the conversation moved along he told me he was out hunting deer with his kids for a week or two and couldn’t hit nudding. He shot at deer from 3 hundred and something yards to 1087. He blamed all of his missed opportunities on his new scope, the old scope was first focal plane and the new one was second. He held 4 feet hi on the 1087 shot, but if he would’ve held 7 he would’ve got em. I told him I was shooting 1000metres the day I saw him and I was corrected over 25 feet. He muddered something about his rifle shooting way flatter than mine…. His nest move was to go buy one of those burris scopes that takes in the environmentals and spits out an automatic correction. To each their own i guess.
:eek: :ROFLMAO:
 
Typically try and use the same 3 rounds all fall. By the end of it they are in ruff shape plastic tips falling off dents scratches ect.


Can’t see them grouping all that well.
 
Those tips melt away within twenty feet after exiting the muzzle, lead tips do the same. By the time the bullet reaches the animal or target, it's a "hollow point"

Found an awful lot of plastic tips in animals that were shot farther than 20’ away over the years for that to be even remotely close to accurate…
Not to mention finding them on the ground after shooting steel plates.
 
Same as Kodiak I hate to admit but at times I miss the gong out at long range...Come spring after the snow melts I pick up 55 grain Nosler Ballistic tip bullets that except for the rifling marks are in perfect condition tip and all.

These Ballistic tips left the muzzle sizzling at 3850fps...Hornady is full of sh!t about plastic tips deforming and causing trajectory problems and all that rocket science BS they hype about.

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Found an awful lot of plastic tips in animals that were shot farther than 20’ away over the years for that to be even remotely close to accurate…
Not to mention finding them on the ground after shooting steel pla

I have never seen that before. Even the companies manufacturing them state they melt away. Very interesting. Thanks for the pics.
 
He held 4 feet hi on the 1087 shot, but if he would’ve held 7 he would’ve got em. I told him I was shooting 1000metres the day I saw him and I was corrected over 25 feet. He muddered something about his rifle shooting way flatter than mine….

lol

Last week this guy was telling me how he shot 800 meters with an open sight 303, hit just a hair low on a pretty small target with the sights adjusted to 350M

I asked him where's it hit at 350 with the sights set for 350?

"bang on"

:LOL:

That's a flat shootin' 303

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Another guy telling me he held top of the back on a bull moose with 7mm Rem Mag, put one right through the boiler room. His dad paced off the shot at it was 1200 yards.

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lol

Last week this guy was telling me how he shot 800 meters with an open sight 303, hit just a hair low on a pretty small target with the sights adjusted to 350M

I asked him where's it hit at 350 with the sights set for 350?

"bang on"

:LOL:

That's a flat shootin' 303

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Another guy telling me he held top of the back on a bull moose with 7mm Rem Mag, put one right through the boiler room. His dad paced off the shot at it was 1200 yards.

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I always feel bad for the animals getting wounded out there or suffering for far longer than they have too. I guess there’s lots that are complete misses too.
 
They're out there!!!

Maybe it's not a bad idea to do like some European countries do and have a means test at a reasonable hunting distance before you can purchase a hunting license. Something basic like 3 shots into a 5 inch round bullseye at 100 m 1 min time limit.
 
They're out there!!!

Maybe it's not a bad idea to do like some European countries do and have a means test at a reasonable hunting distance before you can purchase a hunting license. Something basic like 3 shots into a 5 inch round bullseye at 100 m 1 min time limit.
Sweden used to be running moose target offhand. Now it’s stationary moose from the bench. ROTFLMAO.
 
Most shooters have zero ability to judge ranges accurately without a rangefinder. That being said, many have no idea about the trajectory/parabola of the cartridge they're shooting or even the velocity of said cartridge.

Throw mirage, cross winds, down drafts, reflection, angle, etc., into the equation, and it means at best a miss, and at worst a badly wounded animal, usually unrecovered, wandering off to die very painfully.
Agreed... eyeball ranging is completely worthless and if you put the best guy on the spot he'd be off by 200-300m anywhere past 400m lol.
Drop...even the flattest shooting ultramag with highest BC bullets drop more then regular people can comprehend, had a guy tell me 6 clicks up on his 7mm Rem gets him from 100m to 600m.
Me and buddy target shoot out to 1000m, 1 target at 100m to confirm zero, next closest is 600m, then 700/800/900/1000, big square ar500 steel targets 2ftx2ft, chrony checked loads, high BC bullets, 7mm Rem/300 Win rifles, apps to calculate both clicks and reticle holdovers, 200lb bench we shoot off that doesn't move, and it still blows my mind just the drop from 800m to 1000m...
We have been at it for a while, just for fun, it's not difficult on a nice day, throw in some 5-10mph wind, mirage, it's a different game all together.
I'd never try and take game at that distance, too many variables, I'm still a newbie in my mind, because I still miss those targets far too often for my own satisfaction.
600-700m not so much, but beyond that, there is a lot to factor in. Watching each others shots spotting, and the trace, how high it's going over the 600m target to hit at 1000m opens your eyes lol
 
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