Both the 30-30 and the 45-70 are fantastic moose guns. Ive shot moose with both. I don't believe I have ever shot a moose at over 75 yards. If you reload you can load the 45-70 down to black powder velocities and they are actually quite pleasant to shoot but still plenty powerful enough for moose at reasonable distances. Just my 2 cents.
buy the cz carbine in 9.3x62. Nice short barrel, iron sights and a cartridge so cool they'll be begging you to come back next year. bonus points if you engrave the floorplate ".366 wagner".
Yup,...I hear ya,....but what my point was, is the BLR is unlike any other lever gun out there, its action is as strong as a bolt action and gives you most all the benefits of a bolt action,...such as pointy bullets in a box mag,.. all the common short, long, magnum, and short magnum caliber options,.. the barrel on the pistol grip BLR is almost completely free floated,.. and yes a rotating bolt that is actuated by a lever,....I don't know,..but that sounds an awful lot like a bolt gun to me,...especially when you compare it to the 94s, 336s, 86s, etc,....I agree that it isn't a 100% bolt action with a lever,..but it's pretty darn close.
Both the 30-30 and the 45-70 are fantastic moose guns. Ive shot moose with both. I don't believe I have ever shot a moose at over 75 yards. If you reload you can load the 45-70 down to black powder velocities and they are actually quite pleasant to shoot but still plenty powerful enough for moose at reasonable distances. Just my 2 cents.
Yup,...I hear ya,....but what my point was, is the BLR is unlike any other lever gun out there, its action is as strong as a bolt action and gives you most all the benefits of a bolt action,...such as pointy bullets in a box mag,.. all the common short, long, magnum, and short magnum caliber options,.. the barrel on the pistol grip BLR is almost completely free floated,.. and yes a rotating bolt that is actuated by a lever,....I don't know,..but that sounds an awful lot like a bolt gun to me,...especially when you compare it to the 94s, 336s, 86s, etc,....I agree that it isn't a 100% bolt action with a lever,..but it's pretty darn close.
100 years ago, the 30-30 was a fantastic moose gun. Today, it is far outclassed by other more capable rounds. Hell, it was back then, but availability of alternatives wasn't what it is now.
Can it do the job? Sure it can. Will it kill as humanely as something with more power? I dont think so. Moose have been killed with 22s, but just because it has worked before doesn't mean its the right tool for the job. We as hunters are supposed to ethical in our choices, and I strongly believe that includes picking a caliber that is well-suited to the task at hand.
100 years ago, the 30-30 was a fantastic moose gun. Today, it is far outclassed by other more capable rounds. Hell, it was back then, but availability of alternatives wasn't what it is now.
Can it do the job? Sure it can. Will it kill as humanely as something with more power? I dont think so. Moose have been killed with 22s, but just because it has worked before doesn't mean its the right tool for the job. We as hunters are supposed to ethical in our choices, and I strongly believe that includes picking a caliber that is well-suited to the task at hand.
Savage model 99 was also offered in chamberings such as the 308 and 358 win. Also used a box mag, so spitzer bullets were usable. These are not features unique to the BLR, especially when you consider the Savage 99 was in production for like 60 years before the BLR ever existed.
Is it a more modern lever-action design then the Winchesters and Marlins? Sure. Does that have ANYTHING to do with being a bolt action in any way shape or form? Nope.
Wanna know what sounds an awful lot like a bolt action to me? Something that has a bolt handle to grab onto for cycling the action. That is your one and only determining factor, and trying to call it a "lever actuated bolt action" not only doesn't make sense, but it perpetuates the idea that such a thing even exists...
I have an itch for proper spelling and terminology.
I was waiting to see who would be the first!! Took you long enough Hoyt!! Lol
I actually resisted opening a thread with "bang stick" in the title... but after a few days, I couldn't take it any more...![]()