I have an ich for a new Bang stick

Suther said:
"The BLR is essentially a "lever operated bolt action" because multiple locking lugs on the head of the bolt rotate into the breech end of the barrel to create a very strong action." - Jon. (apparently Chuck didn't write this one.)

I guess I will say it again... A rotating bolt does not make it a bolt action. Otherwise an AR is a bolt action, and a garand is a bolt action, and a Desert freakin' Eagle is a bolt action.

You are just showing me another example of some old timer who bought into some bullcrap non-nonsensical garbage that someone (probably the people marketing the BLR) said once upon a time, and somehow - contrary to simple logic - still gets repeated.
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Do you use a lever? My 94' is effectively a modified falling block. The BLR has a rotating bolt driven by a lever. Totally different concepts. I'd call an AR a gas-actuated semi-auto bolt action if I was going to get technical, how about you?
I've heard the BLR (and the '88) referred to off-hand as "lever actuated bolt actions" many times in many places.

Bolts lock into the breech like a bolt turning in a nut, hence "bolt action". A gun with a bolt is a bolt gun. The difference is in how that bolt is moved. By a lever, by a handle attached directly to the bolt, or by gas.
 
Do you operate a lever, pump the bolt, move a bolt manually, or does it move the bolt by itself.... I guess every rifle except some single shots or doubles are all bolt actions, along with shotguns.

Good grief.
 
.325WSM said:
I like Bover. Sounds like a faithful dog.
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I am actually now leaning towards bever action....

Ie. "I went to the range last weekend and tried someone else's bever action and I really liked it"

Or

"I love bever action..... I love a nice over under too"

Or maybe

"Side by side is fun.... Especially when I have my bever action as well..."
 
Cleftwynd said:
Do you operate a lever, pump the bolt, move a bolt manually, or does it move the bolt by itself.... I guess every rifle except some single shots or doubles are all bolt actions, along with shotguns.

Good grief.
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Most are bolts of one form or another now. The earlier action types, such as falling block, rolling block etc, can't handle high pressures. The breech block in my '94 is restrained only by a vertically rising block at the rear of the action. Not a bolt gun.

I'll continue to call them levers, bolts, pumps, semi's just like you. The reason the "lever actuated bolt" statement was made was just to show that it can handle the higher pressures. They are still lever guns, but of a totally different type than the older models.
 
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Superbrad said:
I am actually now leaning towards bever action....

Ie. "I went to the range last weekend and tried someone else's bever action and I really liked it"

Or

"I love bever action..... I love a nice over under too"

Or maybe

"Side by side is fun.... Especially when I have my bever action as well..."
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I like the way you think my friend :)
 
Superbrad said:
I am actually now leaning towards bever action....

Ie. "I went to the range last weekend and tried someone else's bever action and I really liked pumping my bolt for a lever of satisfaction and mimicking a semi auto with a unlimited number of rounds in the clip
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Maybe an instructional book on the subject should be penned.
 
I was just thinking about this as of right now I do not want/need another firearm.

I have every category that we can legally have here in Canada filled well except I want a super short lightweight shorter than 18.5" barreled semi-auto non-restricted AR-style carbine like an M4 in 6.8SPC - 450 Bushmaster - 458 SOCOM - 50 Beowulf did have this category covered a bit but sold my Robinson Arms XCR-L with uppers in 223 - 6.8SPC.

but we know that this isn't going to happen here in Canada so I'm good... :)
 
So.......I just want to jump in and get an on track answer from some in this chat who arnt useing the thread to ##### about wording and symantics about the BLR and someones mistake to type a wrong letter in a bad place.

If for all around bush gun, from deer to Moose and anything in that wieght catagory (bear, elk, bigger bears and other meat producing animals who fall in the Large game catagory), would you use a 30-30 a 45-70, or a 308. idealy the rifle should be less than 40" long Total length (marlin, ruger scout are both under 40") NOT INTERESTED IN THE BLR (however you class it)

I ask these calibers as most in this chat who have stayed on topic have mentioned these 3 most. "remember, its for a short barrel bush gun" and "looking for a new bang stick" (WANT not a need)
 
Troy1760 said:
So.......I just want to jump in and get an on track answer from some in this chat who arnt useing the thread to ##### about wording and symantics about the BLR and someones mistake to type a wrong letter in a bad place.

If for all around bush gun, from deer to Moose and anything in that wieght catagory (bear, elk, bigger bears and other meat producing animals who fall in the Large game catagory), would you use a 30-30 a 45-70, or a 308. idealy the rifle should be less than 40" long Total length (marlin, ruger scout are both under 40") NOT INTERESTED IN THE BLR (however you class it)

I ask these calibers as most in this chat who have stayed on topic have mentioned these 3 most. "remember, its for a short barrel bush gun" and "looking for a new bang stick" (WANT not a need)
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All Round Big Game = "NOT" a .30/30 or .45/70

Maybe a .308, but if you are using the "all round" criteria, a .30/06 is a better choice.

There are 40" and under .30/06's out there. eg. M77 International or Ultralight.
 
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