Interesting experience ref 762mmfirearms order

Claven2

Claven2

CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Rating - 100%
407   0   2
Location
Onterrible
Today I finally got through on the phone to the guys at 762mmfirearms in the states. Those guys are DAMN BUSY. Talked to them on the phone for a spell and they are overflowing with USGI contracts for spares.

I would have thought the US Gov would have plenty of spares, but I guess they must have junked most of that stuff under Clinton because they are certainly ordering a lot of stuff new now.

Anyhow, I digress. They must have an export license, because I had no problem at all ordering up a complete new manufacture USGI gas cylinder assembly by mail ($138 plus shipping!!!). These are the real ones being supplied to the the US ARMY as spares for service and EBR M14's.

In fact, they ship to Canada all the time, he said. I asked and he said they had all the appropriate export permits and file all necessary paperwork on the US side, and what Canada Customs does is my problem.

Oh well, I don't mind paying duty and tax to get good parts.

Very surprised. I thought for sure I'd get hammered with the usual Fulton Armory type BS or the $100 limit problem.

For those interested, they also sell separate trigger group parts, so you could, for example, order just a USGI trigger, hammer and sear for a Norinco group, or any combination of parts, or even just the housing.

Will report back on quality when the stuff arrives. I went with the USGI options aside from the piston, which I ordered in titanium nitrate coating.
 
Last edited:
1 - Post link, directly cut and pasted:

http://www.762mmfirearms.com/

2 - Scroll down, look for the box that says "Automatically parse links in text" under "Miscellaneous Options".

3 - Uncheck this box.

Results are as above.

-M
 
I got my flash supp from them in the mail the other week:D very nice!!
Good to hear there's no $100 limit.

Did anyone try to order a bolt yet? How did it turn out??
 
J996 said:
I got my flash supp from them in the mail the other week:D very nice!!
Good to hear there's no $100 limit.

Did anyone try to order a bolt yet? How did it turn out??
Click to expand...


The limit is not imposed by the retailers rather it is imposed by the US State department. From what I have been able to find out so far the $100.00 limit is to most countries. Canada apparently has a $200.00 limit on gun parts.

Because the legislation is so complex or vague many retailers are choosing to err on the side of caution and stick with $100.00 for everyone.
 
I had actually read in their export legislation that the limit to Canada was $500, and 100 for all other countries. I'll see if I can find it again.
 
In any event, my order for $138 sailed right through.

Their receivers are offered in two varieties: Investment Cast and Forged. Both are machined on CNC machines to milspec drawings (they apparently have a complete set from the DOD for their US Army contract).

I didn;t ask and can't verify, but I *think* the only reason they are offering a hammer forged receiver for under $900 is because their hammer forge cost is offset by their contract for bolts, gas assemblies, trigger assembly parts, etc. all of which require a hammer forge to produce to milspec. For comparison, SA Inc. does not hammer forge their parts, this is why most of their newer non-USGI parts are not US Gov't marked with drawing numbers, etc. (though their bolts are marked with fake USGI drawing numbers for some reason??? I think they are cast or billet machined though - not forged)

I do know the US 2nd ID had at least two polytech semi-only receivers built into EBR's back in 2005 or so by Smith Enterprises and I think some units have contracted EBR's on LRB receivers. I would not be surprised if this new outfit is supplying receivers to the US Gov't as well, otherwise they'd just make the cast version which isn't completely milspec. If they aren't supplying receivers, they seem to be supplying them with everything else apart from maybe barrels?
 
As an interesting thought though, why are original 1950's through 1960's era M14 parts considered un-exportable, ITAR, etc. while new manufacture parts made by a private company who supplies the exact same part to the US gov't under contract is exportable with no difficulty?

Only thing I can figure is that the parts made with tax dollars are verbotten while the parts made in the same factory and paid by private citizen dollars are free game???
 
Don't get to excited about getting 1 of these reciever's yet. As there back order won't be cleared up on reciever's tell late August or early September.
Also isn't it refreshing to talk to a US company that dosn't snub us like that "other company" does.
E.G.(Fulton Arms)
 
PatD said:
I had actually read in their export legislation that the limit to Canada was $500, and 100 for all other countries. I'll see if I can find it again.
Click to expand...

Numrich for years had a 500$ limit, that was recently dropped down to 200$ in the last year. Since they are in the business of import/export, perhaps the State Department told them something.

Claven2 said:
while new manufacture parts made by a private company who supplies the exact same part to the US gov't under contract is exportable with no difficulty?
Click to expand...

Original M14 parts are banned due to the fact they are for FA rifles. Now commercial parts since they are for semi-auto only M14 type rifles are just gun parts. Parts that are USGI M14 do need paperwork, while M1A parts do not. For years commercial receivers in the US were not allowed to be marked M14 hence why SAI named theirs M1A. Perhaps they are easing up on commercial use of the "M14" label.

If you notice, they don't say M14 on all the pieces they make, only say they make them to a drawing number. Would be interesting to see if the packaging is the same way.

Dimitri
 
Ammo importation.

The limit on bringing in ammo from the states is 5,000 rounds. Just load it up into your vehicle and claim it at the border.
 
Last edited:
Interesting, because i know for 100% certainty that the parts sold vcommercially are out of the same bin as the parts being shipped to the US gov't.

Oh well, I won;t complain ;)

Now if only they made a barrel for under $200 to USGI specs that they would ship to us... ;)

Now that this place is rolling out parts, I expect the price of used USGI parts on the EE to drop. Except for maybe oprods since they aren't selling oprods to civilians yet, though they are making them for the US Army.
 
tiriaq said:
That wouldn't involve breaking any laws at all, would it?:rolleyes:
Click to expand...
No. Check the feds website for confirmation. I just did and it's all hunky dory. One of the guys used to come with me into Montana and we'd bring back a ####load of .308 and .223 and never had any problems.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom