Killing hibernating bears

j_06 said:
How does one take this the wrong way? The worst part of it is it took others calling you out to own up and apologize, you couldn't/probably still don't see the problem with your behaviour, rather you seemed to think it was funny... And people wonder where the native poacher stereotype comes from, it's this broken, ass backwards way of thinking. I thank you for your stewardship!
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When I made Reference To English colonialIslam I was referring to how English elite would not let peasants hut as they own the land and everything behind there fence including wildlife and people ( high face hunting )
The concept of anyone having to pay thousands of dolers to go hunting is horrible hell I wish ever father would take there kids hunting and think the cost is to high now for them and it shood be easer as hunting is a family activities that is important there for not a sport ore privilege but a right every one shood have
My Favorite threads ar the one wear a new Hunter is getting ready for his first hunt or better yet wen there successful and are telling us about there adventer
 
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carverk said:
When I made Reference To English colonialIslam I was referring to how English elite would not let peasants hut as they own the land and everything behind there fence including wildlife and people ( high face hunting )
The concept of anyone having to pay thousands of dolers to go hunting is horrible hell I wish ever father would take there kids hunting and think the cost is to high now for them and it shood be easer as hunting is a family activities that is important there for not a sport ore privilege but a right every one shood have
My Favorite threads ar the one wear a new Hunter is getting ready for his first hunt or better yet wen there successful and are telling us about there adventer
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Yes, I understand how it was back in the day, thanks for the grade 9 history lesson. I was talking about your incoherent rambling about your piss poor morals and hunting ethics. Yeah those threads are great, make sure ya let them know how to nagger hop fences, set deer snares while avoiding detection or just interject random, strait out of left field comments!
 
j_06 said:
Yes, I understand how it was back in the day, thanks for the grade 9 history lesson. I was talking about your incoherent rambling about your piss poor morals and hunting ethics. Yeah those threads are great, make sure ya let them know how to nagger hop fences, set deer snares while avoiding detection or just interject random, strait out of left field comments!
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Auto correct does some funny things ,sum times I catch it sometimes I don't
 
Denning is a normal method of predator control. It's the mark
of a professional; no loose ends. It doesn't have anything to do
with sport hunting. In this case the real story should have been State versus Federal jurisdiction.

Anti hunters twisted the story into something that it isn't, and by the looks of things most of you fell for
it.
 
State authorized predator control is one thing, poaching is another.

Bear shot dead when forced out of burning den in Labrador, officials say

Bear shot dead when forced out of burning den in Labrador, officials say
Investigation into Dec. 3 incident continuing, wildlife officials say
CBC News Posted: May 02, 2017 3:09 PM NT Last Updated: May 02, 2017 3:09 PM NT

Officials say the investigation has led them to believe a black bear was shot dead after its den was set on fire, about 100 km north of Churchill Falls. (File Photo)

Officials say the investigation has led them to believe a black bear was shot dead after its den was set on fire, about 100 km north of Churchill Falls. (File Photo) (CBC)

A black bear was shot dead while escaping its den which had been set on fire, about 100 kilometres north of Churchill Falls, Labrador in December, according to Fish and Wildlife Enforcement officials.

The illegal killing is alleged to have happened in the areas of Orma Lake and Sail Lake on or around Dec. 3.

According to a news release issued Tuesday afternoon by the Newfoundland and Labrador Department of Fisheries and Land Resources the investigation is continuing.

Anyone with information about the incident is asked to contact Fish and Wildlife Enforcement in Wabush at (709) 944-4898 or via stoppoaching.ca.
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j_06 said:
Yes, I understand how it was back in the day, thanks for the grade 9 history lesson. I was talking about your incoherent rambling about your piss poor morals and hunting ethics. Yeah those threads are great, make sure ya let them know how to nagger hop fences, set deer snares while avoiding detection or just interject random, strait out of left field comments!
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I don't like the hopping fences and rustling cattle part as well... However, CarverK has explained and apologized so let's move on and get back on topic :)

Dogleg said:
Denning is a normal method of predator control. It's the mark
of a professional; no loose ends. It doesn't have anything to do
with sport hunting. In this case the real story should have been State versus Federal jurisdiction.

Anti hunters twisted the story into something that it isn't, and by the looks of things most of you fell for
it.
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Interesting... I know you are a well travelled hunter, so I am curious to know which other jurisdictions are you aware of that follow this method of predator control?
 
M16LR.50 said:
Interesting... I know you are a well travelled hunter, so I am curious to know which other jurisdictions are you aware of that follow this method of predator control?
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Alaska is a bit of a special case in North America, partly because of its somewhat unique laws on game management. I would recommend reading the book Wolves, Bears, and Their Prey in Alaska: Biological and Social Challenges in Wildlife Management (1997), by the National Research Council.
 
medvedqc said:
even if grizzly can climb on tree and i won some bet about it, i do not think i want to try to tree a grizzly to see if i can shoot or not ....
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I wasn't talking about l'ours, That was about mountain lions. I'm not chasing a grizzly in the faint hope that he will climb one of those spindly Yukon trees!
 
Grock-co said:
I have tried, and found it not very sporting, and who are you to judge, oh ya, keyboard jockey.
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If you found chasing a pack of dogs in the mountains until they treed the lion not very sporting then you are truly a man among men. I'll just stay here with my non-ergonomic keyboard and dream of the challenges of the wild.
 
umchorn2 said:
When you drive past miles of wheat and canola fields and see nothing but plowed dirt...and then you drive by a few quarters of bush with some deer and moose amongst the sea of agriculture you'll know who owns the wildlife. Get it now Gatehouse?? When you own the land you decide what lives or dies. Like it or not...it's my wildlife. That's where it is, that's where it lives, and that's how it is, partner.
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Not the way it works in Canada. That wildlife is as much mine as yours. you own 1/36 571 413th of every wild animal out there.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Not the way it works in Canada. That wildlife is as much mine as yours. you own 1/36 571 413th of every wild animal out there.
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That's not how it works. The wildlife in Saskatchewan is 0/1,130,000th yours. That is why a non-resident Canadian can't just come to BC and buy a sheep tag OTC.
 
MiG25 said:
That's not how it works. The wildlife in Saskatchewan is 0/1,130,000th yours. That is why a non-resident Canadian can't just come to BC and buy a sheep tag OTC.
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Still not quite correct. Wildlife resources are held in the public trust. The public trust is both provincial/territorial and federal at the same time, with shared responsibility between Canada and the provinces/territories for the management and protection of wildlife, depending on the context and species. Which is why you have provincial/territorial responsibilty for many aspects of hunting & fishing within the province/territory, but with certain important exceptions governed by federal law.
 
CV32 said:
Still not quite correct. Wildlife resources are held in the public trust. The public trust is both provincial/territorial and federal at the same time, with shared responsibility between Canada and the provinces/territories for the management and protection of wildlife, depending on the context and species. Which is why you have provincial/territorial responsibilty for many aspects of hunting & fishing within the province/territory, but with certain important exceptions governed by federal law.
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BC Wildlife Act
"Property in wildlife
2# (1) Ownership in all wildlife in British Columbia is vested in the government.".

Government means Her Majesty in Right of British Columbia. In other words the Provincial Crown, and we hunt at the Crown's pleasure, nothing about Public Trust.
 
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