LAR 15 mags are no longer directly refered to in the RCMP special bulletin

[mikethebike]

Which is great. I am glad the charges against your friend were dropped.

However it doesn't set any sort of legal precedent or preclude someone from being charged with the same thing in the future.

you can be charged for anything in this country, then later have those charges dropped, its called the leo made a mistake.

The beowolf situation if pressed will have to go to court, and frankly the RCMP doesnt want that to happen because it could really go either way. And if the judge rules not illegal to c68, that mean its good to go forever until they change c68. Not an easy thing to do and frankly quite an embarassment to the rcmp seeing that it would finally prove they are not experts in firearms or enforcing c68 which will open up a can of worms my friends that would be their undoing in firearms matters forever..

There is the intent of the law and the letter of the law. Judges will stick to the letter of the law, SoC would stick to the intent of the law. Since SoC wants nothing to do with c68 we will have to stick to the letter of the law. Which means, no dual use language.

 

[sailor723]

you can be charged for anything in this country, then later have those charges dropped, its called the leo made a mistake.

The beowolf situation if pressed will have to go to court, and frankly the RCMP doesnt want that to happen because it could really go either way. And if the judge rules not illegal to c68, that mean its good to go forever until they change c68. Not an easy thing to do and frankly quite an embarassment to the rcmp seeing that it would finally prove they are not experts in firearms or enforcing c68 which will open up a can of worms my friends that would be their undoing in firearms matters forever..

There is the intent of the law and the letter of the law. Judges will stick to the letter of the law, SoC would stick to the intent of the law. Since SoC wants nothing to do with c68 we will have to stick to the letter of the law. Which means, no dual use language.

I agree....that's a pretty good summation.

 

[Brian46]

But if, as you state, "all beowulf magazines are prohibited now" can you explain why there hasn't been anything other than this one single letter to one single importer regarding these magazines? .

one letter? The RCMP SFSS has made this assertion before. Armtac was the first to post their email correspondence with the RCMP and there have been a few other vendors along with some magazine shipments not making it across the border as per what was posted in dealer forums on this website. A lot of the threads were either deleted or locked and forgotten about, which is a shame since we continue to get people saying this is the first time or only time it has come up ever which is simply false.

 

[Brian46]

I don't know what specific model and manufacturer they applied for.

IIRC it was a shipment of Cproducts magazines that were being pre sold that never arrived

 

[Runningfool]

one letter? The RCMP SFSS has made this assertion before. Armtac was the first to post their email correspondence with the RCMP and there have been a few other vendors along with some magazine shipments not making it across the border as per what was posted in dealer forums on this website. A lot of the threads were either deleted or locked and forgotten about, which is a shame since we continue to get people saying this is the first time or only time it has come up ever which is simply false.

Ok, can you post the correspondence you speak of here? If it's been deleted or locked and forgotten, please copy and paste it here for all to see.

 

[Brian46]

Ok, can you post the correspondence you speak of here? If it's been deleted or locked and forgotten, please copy and paste it here for all to see.

I have done it multiple times in various beowulf mag thread that are either locked and deleted and people still deny it, use search function and look up all posts from àrmtac, easiest way to find it as there is not many

 

[Brian46]

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1237510-50-Bw-mags-things-are-getting-stupid/page12

Post 114. It actually took me 2 seconds

Contact him directly as I did if you seek more information

 

[Runningfool]

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1237510-50-Bw-mags-things-are-getting-stupid/page12

Post 114. It actually took me 2 seconds

Contact him directly as I did if you seek more information

Yeah I am aware of that thread. Forgive me if I don't put too much stock in the 2nd hand report of a dealer that got in a few Beo mags and then dropped the ball...I will take the word of the CSSA saying these magazines remain perfectly legal as well as the several dealers that are openly selling AA Beo mags rather than the telephone game being played on CGN. Mikethebike summed it up well.
Honestly, do you really believe the AA Beo mags are prohibited now? When the status of the Swiss Arms and CZ rifles was changed to prohibited, did the RCMP let the gun community know by counting on second-hand reports from the SFSS filtering through dealers to Swiss Arms and CZ owners? No they didn't. You've made it apparent ad nauseam that you own a Beo rifle...have you destroyed your mags already or have you pinned them to only hold a single round?

 

[Brian46]

Yeah I am aware of that thread. Forgive me if I don't put too much stock in the 2nd hand report of a dealer that got in a few Beo mags and then dropped the ball...I will take the word of the CSSA saying these magazines remain perfectly legal as well as the several dealers that are openly selling AA Beo mags rather than the telephone game being played on CGN. Mikethebike summed it up well.
Honestly, do you really believe the AA Beo mags are prohibited now? When the status of the Swiss Arms and CZ rifles was changed to prohibited, did the RCMP let the gun community know by counting on second-hand reports from the SFSS filtering through dealers to Swiss Arms and CZ owners? No they didn't. You've made it apparent ad nauseam that you own a Beo rifle...have you destroyed your mags already or have you pinned them to only hold a single round?

You are "aware of that thread" yet you discount that first hand information posted by a CGN vendor of their correspondence with the RCMP SFSS in this thread by posting only one warning by the RCMP exists?

Armtac would have been one of the first if not the first to bring an aftermarket 50 beowulf magazine to the Canadian market if it were not for that RCMP SFSS email they received after submitting one to the RCMP.

Where did I say I believe they are prohibited? What I do know is that there are a plethora of mags on the market that will not reliably feed the rounds they were intended to carry by the manufacturer into a 50 beowulf rifle that certainly don't help the situation at hand.

When the Cproducts 50 beowulf mags were first announced, I asked the retailer about the follower and they could not answer as they did not even have samples so I called direct. I was told they do not manufacture 50 beowulf anything as that would infringe on Alexander Arms copyright.

You are free to think as you wish, but you would be wrong to make the assumptions you have in your post about me