Lets see your pre 64 model 70's

Those are really nice Rod, I'm envying that 257 Roberts. RickF had one for sale last year with a Fajen stock that I missed out on, still kicking myself.
 
Not sure if you are saying that the butt plate on mine is not original but I am pretty sure it is. Maybe you are saying that I could add a steel one and it would still be correct
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Dave:

The late 1950's saw many running changes for Winchester, not just with the Model 70, but with the Model 12 as well. Winchester production lines would implement the updated parts as their bins depleted. Model 12's would show up with an updated forend a year before the older forends were still issued.

Model 70 receivers were serial numbered during their manufacture and not when the rifle was completed. Receivers were like any other compenent and not necessarily reached for in numbered order. A receiver stamped before the end of 1958 may not have been built into a finished Model 70 until 1959 or later.

For example; I have a pre-war Model 12, 20 ga, where the receiver and receiver extension date the gun to 1940, but there is evendence the gun was not built until early post war as there is one post war component used in assembly. The gun came to me as NIB as they get. The butt end of the receiver is stamped 28, indicating it was to be built as a 28 ga, but with post war production gearing up, they built it as a 20 ga knowing it would leave the store shelves quicker as a 20 ga. So nothing is absolute with serial number dating. But the good news with your Model 70 is; a steel butt plate is correct for a 1958 serial numbered gun. The composite buttplate would also be considered correct.

From the 40,000 pre 64 M70's built in 300 H&H, only a small percentage remain in excellent condition. Yours appears to be one of these few and worth a substantial premium. A steel butt plate would increase the value, slightly, but only if it was installed correctly. It's nice to have the choice.

Regards:
Rod
 
I've just purchased a standard in .30-06 stamped in the 409### range. The only things bugging me about the rifle are that the stock is flawless except for the fact it looks like someone has taken the laquer finish off of it (pretty sure they didn't come like that), also the most forward screw on the underside of the stock looks to have too small a head since it seems to be sunk in deeper than the original counter sink. As for the metal, I'd say it's VG and it comes with a beauty metal Butt. Definitely no signs of head spacing.

It's my first pre '64 and I'm hooked! Anyone seen the screw on the forstalk as being smaller than those on the trigger guard? Any thoughts on a dull wood finish?
 
I'll add a picture of my 270 here. I've had this one for sale before but now I've purchased a perfect stock for it from another great CGN'er and it's a keeper.
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Looking for Pre 64 Model 70 in .30-'06 or .338 WM

What would be a ballpark figure for an original Pre 64 Winchester Model 70 in .30-'06 or .338 WM, with iron sights? I want to know how much to save up.
 
crazy_davey said:
I have always loved these rifles in original condition. I finally got my hands on the one I wanted and have a few more in the works over the next while. I bought this one from a well known and respected CGN member, just took some convincing that he wanted to part with it.

Here is my all original 1958 Winchester 70 in 300H&H:

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I recently had my paws on two pre war model 70's, one in 300H&H and one in .270. I have a feeling some serious money might be needed to pry them from the owners hands though :(
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Piracy...
 
Two years ago I paid a bit more than $2,000 for a 30-06 supergrade, excellent bore, very good metal, very good stock, came with a Lyman receiver sight, original sling swivels. Last year I purchased a .243 featherweight, all original excellent bore, excellent metal and very good to exe wood for $975.

I sold a 300 H and H that was in overall good condition (1962 or 3 mfr) for $900. It shot really well but needed to be resored and I didn't have the time.

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Lovely, iconic rifles, lads. And reassuring to see so many scoped bolt rifles with irons still on 'em in one thread.

They had kind of a long-barrelled thing going on back then in the US design rooms, though, didn't they? Most of these look to be 24-inchers, and one or two a bit longer?

Regardless, I'd take one in .35 Whelen, or one of the African calibers, tomorrow.
 
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