Long range fun shoot gathering in BC, 1000 yards+

Well, need to put the final touches on next weekend.

If you are coming, please PM by confirm. I will be posting the meet time and location shortly so want to know who is coming so no one gets missed.

I am thinking 8:30 at the local high school.

Also, need to get list of gear being brought. Still needing more tables and radios.

Please confirm guys. Thanks,

Jerry
 
Ok guys, the final week. Please confirm your attendance this Saturday.

Right now it looks like we will have a smaller then expected group. If all the gear shows up, we will get a chance to see quite a variety of very nice rifles.

Support gear also looks good but don't hesitate to bring an extra chair or table or optics or targets. More the better, especially the targets. Those coming in cars, no problem with trucks to get you to the shooting area.

We will meet up in the parking lot of the Summerland High School by 8:30am. This is on the corner of Rosedale and Main street. There is a Shell gas station across the street.

For those coming north from Penticton, turn left at the first traffic lights after climbing up Summerland hill (McDonalds and mall at lights). Follow street to the four way and turn right. The Shell is 20yds from the 4 way.

Coming south from Kelowna or the Connector, turn right at the first lights (Petro Can/Esso at corner). Follow rd to the left and you will drive past the Peacocks Pearch pub and liquor store. Another couple of blocks and you will see the school fields and parking lot on your right.

I will have a blue Dodge Dakota with canopy and my cell is 250-486-2610 in case you are late or get lost.

If everyone coming can send one final PM by Friday am, make sure no one gets left behind. Should be hot so bring sunscreen and lots of fluids...

Jerry
 
catnthehatt said:
Long range Canuck has been noticebly absent from the board, I wonder if he made it over yonder to that shoot?
Cat

Nope I was sitting at work today thinking how nice It would have been to make it to the shoot......oh well next year. So how did it go anyway? Next year your going to have to make the dates on my days off or vacation time. As far as being noticebly absent, yes cat your right, kinda been taking a back bench lately but still trying to keep up on events. Im off wend to sunday if ya want to get some shooting in.
 
It was a hoot! I have some photos to post later - but I can say that a good time was had by all. The ned note was watching a shooter place a round on a rock at one mile - with a .338. Impressive.

LH
 
Well guys, the day was perfect. Overcast, warm but not hot, very calm conditions, perfect lighting. Only spat rain at us once and then just as we were packing up.

We had 8 shooters coming from Vanc and the valley. Great bunch of guys and some very nice rifles. Was great getting everyone dialed in at distances they didn't think possible.

The day started with a quick warm up and sight in at 540yds. A few shots later, most had already reached beyond their days expectations. All did very well and one guy just wouldn't miss (good shooting Peter).

Then the gongs and clays got set up out to 710yds. Was nice to see so many Leica rangefinders and one very lovely but weak batteried Swarovski (it'll work next time for sure).

One guy brought up these really nice gongs but they were huge. Made it easy to see the much smaller groups that were pounding into the gong. Off bipods, table rests, guys were just pounding those poor gongs. IVO, you are going to need thicker or stronger steel. Could always just make them harder to hit...

Then the attention turned to shooting clays. A bit of doping and clays were disappearing in clouds of dust. Very good shooting indeed. A few rifles didn't have turrents or ran out of adjustment so some Kentucky was being used with very good effect.

Bob, was just pounding targets using holdover alone. Yikes, wait till he can actually dial a scope in. Nice shooting.

Lars brought out a Springfield trapdoor carbine in 45-70. Using the orig grooved sights he was definitely pounding the area around the gong. If not for the straight down trajectory of those cast slugs, he would have hit the gong for sure.

Amazing accuracy for a 125+ yr old rifle, black powder, cast bullets, and open sights. We consider these rifles crude and not very accurate by todays standards, but seeing that display of accuracy at 700yds, makes you wonder how anyone survived the civil war.

We will try to get out to 1000m and further with the Sharps soon.

We got hit with a short rain shower allowing us to get a bite to eat and share stories. Do not let IVO hunt in your area or there will be no more animals left.

Lionhill showed us a very nice tuck away Ruger. A very nice CQB rig indeed. Pity we didn't shoot it. The dot sight could have worked. We would just have had to aim at the moon give or take a few MOA. Next time. Could have let Bob Kentucky that rifle.

After the storm, attention turned to 950m. Guessing a 10 to 12" size boulder nestled in the hillside got a very rude awakening from several rifles. IVO used his 338 Lapua with great effect. Too bad they were only 'rough' loads. Might have to look for fleas for you to hit next time.

My 7 Mystic and 300RUM also pounded the rock convincingly. Happy to say that ballistically, the 162gr AMax and 220gr MK are very similar from these two rifles. Of course, the RUM hits a wee bit harder.

A 300WM was tried but loads just weren't up to it. More tweaking and that rig would work just fine. Adding a muzzle brake would help too. OUCH!!!

With 5 mulies mingling in the target area, we moved to 1280m. Again, a boulder was rudely awakened.

This was now later in the afternoon with lots of rds being fired at different ranges and everyone with big grins on their faces. Big bad clouds were coming in but I had one more surprise for everyone.

'Who wants to shoot to a mile?'

IVO stepped up with his 338 Lapua and I started dialing him in. First shot was at a boulder more or less at 1250m. Just beside so drop is just fine.

Next rock at 1400+ meters, again estimated dial up right on. This rifle and the 250gr Scenars is also very similar to my Mystic and RUM drops.

Now the next target, 1600m or roughly 1760yds - ONE MILE.

Bullet is dropping hard now and first shot lands one 'bump' in the hillside short. 3 more MOA and 'that was close'. One more adjustment (one or two MOA I think) and the bullet digs into the base of the boulder throwing dirt convincingly on the face.

Contact at 1 MILE.... Big smiles and cheers.

Now to do it again. Boom, wait, wait, wait, puff. Off center but a hit never the less. IVO will have to post the amount of elevation used (hopefully, write it down too) but that SAKO is a one mile capable rig with fireforming loads.

All through the day Frozen Snake had been kind enough to help out with spotting duties and taking pics. Of course, getting in a few shots on different rifles. IVO opened an invitation for others to try and FS stepped up.

One shot, one hit. Great gun, good shooting. I think the second shot hit too.

That was a great way to end the day. Storm came rolling off the hills and we were packing up in 25MPH winds and rain. Timing couldn't be better.

I am sure that many pics and stories will be posted soon from the other guys.

The group was a great bunch of guys willing to share experiences, gear, ammo, and chicken. We all had a great time and I think there will be turrents added onto scopes and a few rifles being tuned quite soon.

I am also very sure this will not be the last fun shoot behind Summerland...

Thank guys. Was a great day...

Jerry
 
Indeed a great time was had by all! Right off the top I would like to thank Jerry for hosting the event and Rick aswell for helping out, they did a great job getting us all on target and sure boosted the confidence of a few grateful gunnutz.

Some very interesting firearms were out this weekend aswell as a few stock rifles that were out of the box shooters. Bob and Lionhill brought out 7mm Rem Mags and .308 wins respectively and proved that with stock rifles one can shootvery accurately. Lionhill had some great success out to almost 1000 yards shooting a stock Rem 700 in .308 with factory match ammo hitting a milk jug sized rock. Bob using a Sendero in 7mm and holding over became proficient in hitting the 2'x2' steel plate out at 700 yards.

Peter was very impressive with the old 30-06 becoming the "guy who couldn't miss". Lars proved with that 45-70, blackpowder isn't just for the older fellas by convincing Bob he should have one, although I think it didn't take much convincing.

Jerry brought out the longrange tools with a very nice 7 mystic that was hammering an 8"x8" rock out at 1200 yards with disgusting consistency and the 300RUM that, although not the prettiest rifle in the rack, launches 220gr MKs a very long way accurately and affordably with a $100 Mauser action.

My personal highlight was the end of the day when Frozen Snake and myself hit a little smaller than 2'x2' rock with my TRG 42 at a mile with 5 out of our last 6 shots.

Here are some pics of the great time we had.
I am already planning for next time.

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Long Range Canuck said:
Nope I was sitting at work today thinking how nice It would have been to make it to the shoot......oh well next year. So how did it go anyway? Next year your going to have to make the dates on my days off or vacation time. As far as being noticebly absent, yes cat your right, kinda been taking a back bench lately but still trying to keep up on events. Im off wend to sunday if ya want to get some shooting in.

Got the 6.5WSSM ready to rock and ### is bringing up some Wilson dies for my 6mmBR Ruger, so I'll likely be doing some early morning shooting before work this week!
( In the office in town now, don'tcha know!:D )
Ivo, those are great pics!
Cat
 
Best part of the day was making new friends! We will have to do it again. Jerry put on a well organized shoot that was more then a fun shoot , but a classroom. Thanks Jerry. Also Ivo Should be proud of his Lapua. If you do your job it will do its job. Shooting a mile and hitting the target was a rush for both Ivo and I. :cool:

Lionhill got the style points for shooting on the ground off his bipod. And yes Peter surprised the hell out of us by hitting everything he aimed at.

One thing . That Gong was heavy. Bob and I had fun carrying it up hill for 100 yards. The real kicker was what the 338 did to the gongs at 700 plus yards. can you say ENERGY!
I am sure the 300 rum would have had similar effect but Jerry was to busy shooting out to another time zone, to bother shooting the gongs.

So hope to see new faces next time around. :)
 
Some people asked about the elevation required to go out to a mile. I still haven't confirmed yet but i believe the .338 Lapua with 250 gr Scenars @ 2950 fps required about 56 minutes of elevation from a 200 yard zero.

I will double check this and update if it is different.
 
Just remember that program data and real world shooting doesn't always agree. In fact, out of 8+ rifles I have set up in the last few years, only one was predicted properly by the program. Close but still off. That can be due to a bunch of things from scope heights and adjustment value, actual bullet BC and velocity, and environmental differences.

When we were shooting 1600m (one mile), we were roughly 15 to 20deg up. That is going to have a significant effect on the drop the bullet sees. The line of sight distance is correct and does not change, however, the effect of gravity (actual drop) is off.

The bullet travels the full mile but 'drops' a shorter distance. The lapua is a very slippery bullet and should exceed the 250gr MK quite handily. Just don't plug in IVO's data and think you have a magic bullet. The BC should be in the 0.65 to .7 range - still very impressive.

I expect the drop to be more like 1400 to 1475m of horizontal travel. Anyone that has some Trig skills can do the math with a range of estimates.

Jerry
 
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Exactly.
My experience has been the same, even at short 100 and 200 yard distances, with programs and load books.

Every rifle and conmdition is different, and one must realize this when setting up gear.
These tools give us a starting point, however.....

Cat
 
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