M-14 Blasphemy?
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Interesting, thank you.
I understand that, but I believe he owned both of those weapons when you were still allowed to play with them, thats why I was curious.
God I hope so... i've already picked the DSA SA58 I want if hell freezes over.
The only issue with a modernized M14 is the weight. I've talked to some SF dudes in the US that hated the SR25 and went back to the M14, also talked with some who said the exact opposite.
Like Hungry said, for the Canadian market this is a fantastic sporting rifle, my goto deer gun every year.
Like Hungry said, for the Canadian market this is a fantastic sporting rifle, my goto deer gun every year.
Speaking of weight, given a choice... I would rather carry a reliable, heavy modernized M14 than carry
an even heavier SR25/M110 that's proven itself to be less reliable than the modernized M14 in combat.
And then there is the cost of each individual weapon to consider.
an even heavier SR25/M110 that's proven itself to be less reliable than the modernized M14 in combat.
And then there is the cost of each individual weapon to consider.
the fn's either a 12(3) or a 12(5) depending on WHERE it came from as well as whether it's modified select fire or semi-auto only- the ones from isreal were 12(3)s, but the fn itself has been RESTRICTED since about 78 or so- under the turdeau admin- maybe even earlier- that's the main reason i went with the 14 back when that golden boat hit our shores- there were fns, ( and hbs)uzis, stens , m14s, probably some pistols, and some "communist" rifles on that boat- and some wierd WTFs as well
I am very familiar with what was available for sale in the 80's. The golden age of muscle guns.
I must be clever, I found the quote button too
You seem to be a new member here so I will give you a little advice.If you want people to think we are all racist hicks on here keep up with comments like the "dirka dirka stan" s**te. You don't like living in a multicultural society then move. Maybe go on Stormfront if you want to rant against getting searched by dark skinned people. I guess dark skin = radical muslim
On the m14 issue the Norc is a solid piece at a great price, as evidenced by the rate at which these sell out as fast as they get brought in. I might buy a Springfield someday, until then my Norc does what I want it to.
My 0.02
Oh yeah, on the copy right issue you might want to look into what happens when they expire. I'll give the 1911 platform as an example. Free game for all who want to.
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squid1230
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All mud slinging aside, my m14, m1a, m305, clone-of-a-clone (what ever you want to call it) is the best $500 I've ever spent. Should a Springfield come across my bow for the same price, of course I would buy it, but not for a $1500 premium only to have an over priced rifle that shoots only as well as my Norc.
My 0.02
My 0.02
The Chinese-made M14s has to be recognised as good value for Canadian firearms enthusiasts. For around $500 you get a 'fully functional out of the box' semi automatic .308 rifle. By either doing the work yourself or investing in someone to help you you can improve your rifle substantially and get get as close as most of us can afford to get to the Real Deal. As far as battle worthy analysis is concerned, the M14 was basically a Garand with a 20 round detachable mag capable of select fire. It saw service extensively in Vietnam prior to the general introduction of the M16 and the people who carried it and whose lives depended upon it appreciated it for what it was. Fielded alongside the FN's carried by the Diggers and Kiwi's there seems to be no substantive difference or preference expressed towards one or the other.
As far as Chinese copying is concerned, please remember that all patents have long expired and that the intellectual property is now classified as public domain.
Would I buy a Springfield ?- Maybe if they were easily available and I could afford to but I can do an awful lot with a couple of Norinco's for the price I would have to pay for a single Springfield.
As far as Chinese copying is concerned, please remember that all patents have long expired and that the intellectual property is now classified as public domain.
Would I buy a Springfield ?- Maybe if they were easily available and I could afford to but I can do an awful lot with a couple of Norinco's for the price I would have to pay for a single Springfield.
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Fondeling M14 while watching "Band of Brothers? sorry, wrong war.
The M14 is archaic? Well, so is the SMLE and No4, but they are still in use and STILL doing the job.
The select fire switch on the M14 was a bloody waste of time as it was not heavy enough.
By the same token, with all the extra fittings on todays mouse guns, they aren't much lighter.
You can carry more ammo? Well yes, and it takes more of that ammo to do the same job.
We are NOT talking about punching nice tight little groups in paper targets but rather punching holes in people whose only purpose in life it to kill you even if they die in the attempt.
Oh by the way, I do own an L1A1 and the only criticism I could come up with is the rather primitive rear sight. That could have been easily remedied and the U.S. should have done so and adopted it.
The M14 is archaic? Well, so is the SMLE and No4, but they are still in use and STILL doing the job.
The select fire switch on the M14 was a bloody waste of time as it was not heavy enough.
By the same token, with all the extra fittings on todays mouse guns, they aren't much lighter.
You can carry more ammo? Well yes, and it takes more of that ammo to do the same job.
We are NOT talking about punching nice tight little groups in paper targets but rather punching holes in people whose only purpose in life it to kill you even if they die in the attempt.
Oh by the way, I do own an L1A1 and the only criticism I could come up with is the rather primitive rear sight. That could have been easily remedied and the U.S. should have done so and adopted it.
I must be clever, I found the quote button too
If you want people to think we are all racist hicks on here keep up with comments like the "dirka dirka stan" s**te. You don't like living in a multicultural society then move. Maybe go on Stormfront if you want to rant against getting searched by dark skinned people. I guess dark skin = radical muslim
On the m14 issue the Norc is a solid piece at a great price, as evidenced by the rate at which these sell out as fast as they get brought in. I might buy a Springfield someday, until then my Norc does what I want it to.
My 0.02
Oh yeah, on the copy right issue you might want to look into what happens when they expire. I'll give the 1911 platform as an example. Free game for all who want to.
Save your advice for those who are inclined to use it. You can drop the hate crime angle now, I've been sticking to the argument at hand. Moving on isn't a real considderation. My family has been here for several generations. We are amongst those who built this country, not those who are taking advantage of it.
Here is a PM I recieved from another member, his identity withheld to protect him from those who choose not to believe what he says.
"I have shot both Norinco and SA. No comparison. Norinco owners just like believing they have an equal or better rifle. Norinco is OK, but its a 450$ rifle. You get what you pay for."
hey , i can TOP that- i have several m14s, and they rank like this- TRW IS NO 1, then the norc, then the springfield, and finally bringing up the rear, the h&r-and yes, i know i'm talking about REAL m14s and cloones at the same time- YOU DO NOT GET WHAT YOU PAY FORwhen it comes to the m14 pattern- when you buy springfield, YOU ARE PAYING FOR THE NAME- they've had more than their fair share of out of spec receivers, broken oprods, and trigger problems- THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE WARRANTY , which becomes moot when you BUY FROM MARSTAR- if it doesn't screw up in the first year, chances are it's not going to- i don't buy a gun on fit and finish, i buy on FUNCTIONALITY AND RELIABILITY- the 14 was concieved as an ugly offspring between a bar and a garand , and no amount of wood and polish is goung to negate that big mag hanging out in nowhere-
