M+M CEO Considered Pulling M10X Rifle From Canada After Brouhaha - CDN Gun Blog
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As per usual, more non-sense.
The only vendor with the current model rifle in stock, is Brownell's at $1249USD; which is aprox. $1603CDN (as of this post), making this rifle $396 more expensive than US retail. The rifle is sold out at $1199.95USD, giving us a differance of $459CDN.
This is not factoring the associated costs of bringing the product to a small international market...
Man...what a scam...
Here is an example of a "price pimp" right here^^^
"It's only $400-$700 more, still a great deal, we aren't getting scammed"
Lol. Math.Fail.
You can use all the catch phrases and made up numbers you want to shore up your ignorance and troll behaviour, it does not change the fact that small market importers and vendors need to make money in order to bring these items to the consumer.
This is what they said early October:
They also indicated they were told a year or two ago at shot show or something like it that there would be no exclusive distribution of the rifle in Canada, and therefore, believed they would be able to bring them in themselves. This is important because it lends to where they got their price number from... the pricing on the M10x-Z in the U.S. at the time the FRT was approved.
It was not until November 7th, that they stated "Just to clear things up with everyone. We did confirm pricing and eta with the President of M+M, before the pre-sale.". A full month and a HUGE amount of debate after the fiasco began. If this was true, why would that not have been the first words out of their mouths? M+M is what they are, but if you read their responses immediately after the pre-sale came out, they were clearly surprised. Not exactly something you would expect if they already discussed pricing and timing for delivering rifles to Wanstalls before the presale. The fact that Can Am themselves said they were told $2k plus in February of 2017 lends further credibility to M+M's initial responses in early October.
Either way, I'm not anywhere near calling on a boycott for ANY dealer over this, that's ridiculous to me when I see that... that includes calls for boycotts on M+M.
Yep, they do. But when they are looking at doubling the US price "just cuz", and it's an item we can get through IRG/Prophet/etc for a HUGE amount less, then they can go #### themselves with M&M's DMR propaganda, lies, and bull####.
I ain't going to support that kind of consumer raping "just cuz".
Rational? Really?
Fairly selective in understanding of events, and facts, as they unfolded eh?
Strong language and ad hominems have been used in expressing frustrations, your opinion here doesn't put you high ground, but I'm sure it makes you feel better, lol.
Fairly selective in understanding of events, and facts, as they unfolded eh?
Strong language and ad hominems have been used in expressing frustrations, your opinion here doesn't put you high ground, but I'm sure it makes you feel better, lol.
Hate to say it, but yes, a percentage of people always buy the newest most expensive "X" (replace X with gun, car, girlfriend, etc.). Fact of life. In fact, often the more pricey the status item was, the happier they are.
Yes, they said that when M&M assured them that by getting their knees bloody, they would be able to still secure rifles at the original pricing for their pre-orders. That they were made to recant and hump that sh!t speaks volumes to how M&M does business.
When you need product to meet your customers' expectations, and the holders of that product have all the negotiating power, businesses will say what they need to say to not lose face, lose customers, and maybe not pay the rent. When M&M ceased to have that power over Wantsalls, that's when we started to hear the real story out of them - IN MY OPINION. Your views are only opinion as well, by the way - I've yet to see you prove anything other than quoting posts here.
I hope your enjoy you rifle, or selling M&M rifles, or whatever your interest in them is. You've made your position very clear, and I respect that, but there is no convincing me they are the victim when it comes the the tatters their reputation currently lies in. It's likely a fantastic rifle. Too bad they suck so hard at marketing practices and alienated a bunch of potential customers.
If only they had fitted a DMR pistol grip - maybe that woulda made it all better.
So what!!!!! This is about the M10x. I have openly stated I want! If it’s more than what others are willing to pay again so what I still would like it I’m no fan boy or elitest. I want the rifle for my own reasons.... I don’t own a tavor or any of the other new cool guns! You don’t see me knocking those who feel it’s over priced so the pokes and jabs from some on here are getting old. I don’t give a #### about any of the politics around this ordeal I only want the rifle as I’ve stated....so the name calling from those who don’t is directed at me!!!! I work hard for my money I’m blue collar and don’t feel I’m better than anybody cause I can pay 2g for this so implying that I’m elite or want to make others think I’m rich is very insulting!
My comments you quoted were at Deckard not you soooooo......
Its my opinion yes, and i stated as much when this was discussed ad nauseum well over a month ago. Just like yours is an opinion, although I will add when you say "Yes, they said that when M&M assured them that by getting their knees bloody, they would be able to still secure rifles at the original pricing for their pre-orders" there is zero basis in any statement by anyone involved procing this...making it more conjecture than anything Ive said.
And yes, I do hope to enjoy the rifle.
And my comments weren't directed at you. I considered the way this (probably good) product was 'marketed' was flawed. It was someone else who went off the rails and decided any comment was 'clearly' about 'jealousy' and such. Soooooo.
With your stupid comments like Kingjenky stated it purely reflects it for what it was ;-)
(Maybe go back on some of your post BEFORE the m10x)
But I'm sure it still eats you up enough at night to continue to post the same drivel and for this Im done with your stupid attitude
Its a pre-order right now.
https://www.gotenda.com/shop/firear...x-dmr-18-6-rifle-semi-7-62x39-non-restricted/
https://www.gotenda.com/shop/firear...x-dmr-18-6-rifle-semi-7-62x39-non-restricted/
FWIW - I had a chance to shoot this rifle during my last trip to Houston. It was ok and didn't really stand out to me - the biggest advantage over a comblock rifle being the uninterrupted top rail. Also, the stamped metal lower feels very cheap in person.
Edit: The one thing that was interesting is that we had to keep letting the barrel cool after each magazine as it heated up really quick and was then getting erratic. The hot texas sun may have had something to do with the overheating, but now, on reflection, I find it odd that the ARs and the SCAR were fine.
Edit: The one thing that was interesting is that we had to keep letting the barrel cool after each magazine as it heated up really quick and was then getting erratic. The hot texas sun may have had something to do with the overheating, but now, on reflection, I find it odd that the ARs and the SCAR were fine.
