M14s in 7.62x39 coming to Canada?

I'm really wanting one. This is what the Mini-30 should've been. I'm gonna wait to see if they run though first. Let somebody else be a guinea pig. Lovechild guns seldom work as well as either of their parents.
 
I have never owned an m14. How often does one normally clean/disassemble the gun/gas system using non corrosive .308 ammo? I read about clinic fixed guns with "shimmed" gas systems. Does this complicate tear down cleanings and reassembly?
If you have to completely tear down and clean the 7.62x39 gun each time, will it be a huge pain in the asss? Is it worth it for such an inaccurate round?

Right out of the US TFM for the M14 you don't need to disassemble the gas system almost ever for cleaning.
I can't remember the number of rounds but it was staggeringly high. I bedded my rifle in my walnut stock so I almost never take it apart. I haven't done a detailed clean in years and I have shot many many rounds through it. Just oil, let it sit and wipe down, then a couple of brushes and patches down the bore and she is ready for more! :rockOn:
With corrosive ammo you would need to take it apart every single time. I have no doubt of that.
 
I'm really wanting one. This is what the Mini-30 should've been. I'm gonna wait to see if they run though first. Let somebody else be a guinea pig. Lovechild guns seldom work as well as either of their parents.

I'm curious to see how well the dinky pinned on fixed ejector lasts getting battered with steel cases constantly.
 
kinda was thinkin the exact same thing actually. wonder why they opted for such a small one

Im also wondering if they even made new barrels for these or just jammed an insert into the chamber. The bolt face looks set back quite a bit too which should be interesting with steel cased ammo and that much unsupported chamber.
 
The stock liner magwell adapter is different in the pics from post #92 as compared to the other pics. I like the way it was done in the pics from post #92.
 
The bolt is drilled for a plunger ejector and notched for the fixed ejector.
I wonder if the manufacturing sequence has the hole drilled before the boltface is counterbored?

In the past, the Chinese did convert to 7.62x39 by using chamber sleeves. I doubt that this would be done on new production.
 
The bolt is drilled for a plunger ejector and notched for the fixed ejector.
I wonder if the manufacturing sequence has the hole drilled before the boltface is counterbored?

In the past, the Chinese did convert to 7.62x39 by using chamber sleeves. I doubt that this would be done on new production.

Well my bad, I just looked at Powerwagons rifle pics and the only difference it shows from a stock M14 is the chamberface is milled out. Still has the plunger ejector and stripper clip guide, stock bolt hold open is present.
I guess there are a couple versions of these?
I thought he just stuck an AK mag in an M14 for a picture lol.
 
what mag are you going to use?

As I said earlier in the thread, Lee Enfield No. 1 Mk III magazines, both the abundant 10 round magazines and the 20 round trench magazine, which could easily be put into production.

I really gotta ask why

As I stated earlier:
A) There are no semi-auto rifles in .303 (besides the GlobCo Mohawk)
B) It would allow the use of full capacity ten and even twenty round magazines, which the RCMP can't say boo about because it complies to the letter of their "opinion" on magazine capacity. How many rounds can currently you use in an AK-47 magazine?

7.7x56 is " slightly" longer than 7.62x51. how much is slightly?

Exactly 8.12mm in overall length, 5.24mm in case length.

The M14 receiver opening exceeds the .303's overall length.

Maximum pressure of the .303 is 49,000 PSI, .308 is 62,000.

50 BMG is also slightly longer than 7.62x51. maybe lets convert one to 50? I mean if your going to open the bolt face to take the 7.7x56 may as well just open it ALL the way to .50 BMG

Now you're just employing a strawman argument.
 
Well my bad, I just looked at Powerwagons rifle pics and the only difference it shows from a stock M14 is the chamberface is milled out. Still has the plunger ejector and stripper clip guide, stock bolt hold open is present.
I guess there are a couple versions of these?
I thought he just stuck an AK mag in an M14 for a picture lol.
I remember reading about the Chinese converting M14's to 7.62x39 back in the Vietnam era. It's not really new.
Powerwagons pics look like a sleeve was installed in the chamber.
The question will be if the new production are new chambered barrels in .308/.310 or sleeved .308 barrels. They are both chrome lined, but so far no one has shown a pic of the chamber yet of these new guns without the stripper clip guide/ejector.
 
As I said earlier in the thread, Lee Enfield No. 1 Mk III magazines, both the abundant 10 round magazines and the 20 round trench magazine, which could easily be put into production.



As I stated earlier:
A) There are no semi-auto rifles in .303 (besides the GlobCo Mohawk)
B) It would allow the use of full capacity ten and even twenty round magazines, which the RCMP can't say boo about because it complies to the letter of their "opinion" on magazine capacity. How many rounds can currently you use in an AK-47 magazine?



Exactly 8.12mm in overall length, 5.24mm in case length.

The M14 receiver opening exceeds the .303's overall length.

Maximum pressure of the .303 is 49,000 PSI, .308 is 62,000.



Now you're just employing a strawman argument.
get a 14 take it to a smith / gunshop and let us know how it turns out.
 
Im also wondering if they even made new barrels for these or just jammed an insert into the chamber. The bolt face looks set back quite a bit too which should be interesting with steel cased ammo and that much unsupported chamber.

I really really wondered why they would have done away with the stock plunger and ejector. BUT hitzy I think you hit on it. I never noticed the boltface was cut back but it sure is. sooooo this tells me that there is a most likely chamber insert. boltface cut back so now the ejector wont work because it would protrude to much maybe? makes no sence to me why they go this route time will tell I guess
 
I'm trying to get excited about these, but... SKS and Vz58 do the same thing.

Give me a solid benifit of a 7.62x39 M1A over a SKS (SKS-D) or Vz58?

Because I'm curious.
 
If it was the same price as the exact same rifle in .308 I might think about one but why would anyone pay more to have it chambered in a crappy cartridge like the x39?
Wanna shoot x39 for cheap? SKS and a crate of ammo will cost you less than one of these rifles.



How much are those?


Lets get one in 22LR while we're at it.
 
I always get a kick outta new firearms!! Can't make everyone happy and this proves it. It is what it is, that simple. I have sks's and cz858's and will most likely pickup two of these! Why? Hell why not. I enjoy the platform and think this would make a great fun shooter. Tell you what, them beer cans are gonna die!!
 
As I said earlier in the thread, Lee Enfield No. 1 Mk III magazines, both the abundant 10 round magazines and the 20 round trench magazine, which could easily be put into production.



As I stated earlier:
A) There are no semi-auto rifles in .303 (besides the GlobCo Mohawk)
B) It would allow the use of full capacity ten and even twenty round magazines, which the RCMP can't say boo about because it complies to the letter of their "opinion" on magazine capacity. How many rounds can currently you use in an AK-47 magazine?



Exactly 8.12mm in overall length, 5.24mm in case length.

The M14 receiver opening exceeds the .303's overall length.

Maximum pressure of the .303 is 49,000 PSI, .308 is 62,000.



Now you're just employing a strawman argument.

The bolt face isn't big enough for the rimmed 303 cartridge for one thing, that's why the SVT was converted in the past because it already has the proper sized bolt face.
There already are 10 round AIA mags for these rifles in 7.62x51 so what's the benefit?
The No1 has a "prescribed" mag limit of 10 rounds anyway, so anything over that is prohibited, even in the No1.
ii) is a rifle of the type commonly known as the “Lee Enfield” rifle, where the magazine is capable of containing not more than 10 cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed
 
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ever wonder why you hardly see any Lee's at the range anymore? they made thousands upon thousands. it's because the ammo is scarce now and expensive. so why even bother.

making new 303 rifles is a bad idea that is designed to FAIL.
 
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