Maccabee Defense SLR information and updates

Whats stupid, is the fact that in your eyes, its wrong for someone to want exactly what they paid a deposit for. The reason for the deposit is to show a commitment from a buyer that they are interrested in buying a certain product, as stated.

Where did I ever say it was ok for MDI to change the finish and that you should accept that? Please quote where I said that. If you read my posts and read carefully you'll see that I'm not overly thrilled about Cerakote over anodizing.

What's a joke is after months of delay they figure out that anodizing is a problem. Why didn't they look into this months ago? I have a set in the mail and another in line. Macabee seems clueless as to how to run a business and are lucky they have a niche product and ATRS has no frt. If ATRS had their frt months ago macabee would be done.

The delays are what they are. NEW TO THE WORLD DESIGN from a small company. Anodizing is not something that every corner shop does. I suspect there are very few companies offering the service. Sourcing an anodizer is far from something you do early on in the design and manufacturing stages. As someone else has posted in this thread apparently the anodizing has blemishes. Seeing as most seem to be super anal would whine about such blemishes MDI has decided to go with Cerakote to keep deliveries flowing. I think that's a step in the wrong direction, especially considering no option was discussed or given to those that ordered and wish to receive anodized sets.

I’m not a lawyer, but I believe if you offer consideration, you have bought the item and are in a binding contract. MDI changing to cerakote would be considered a breach of contract.
So go ahead and start some civil litigation and wait YEARS for it to ever see a court room.. Seeing as most have only placed a deposit for a spot in line then no product has been sold. Get a life, get your deposit back and MOVE ALONG.

AB_Blaster you are either way too emotionally invested in this or are being paid to post this much.

I'm far from emotional about this. I'm simply stunned by the whining and entitlement that others continously post as if it makes any difference to MDI or the production schedule. It's real simple. Accept what they offer or get your refund and MOVE ALONG.

Exactly. This is why it is a big deal. Given the fact they did not specify timelines exactly that is not breach of contract but anodizing was a specification of said contract. Why should I have to accept alteration of this contract without being consulted/compensated? How is this my fault?

No one said you had to accept an alternate coating. You're free to get your refund and MOVE ALONG.

bah it was 100 bucks, having experienced cerakote only on my bcl I am no longer interested, i will likely cancel if they dont anodize anymore, someone else will gladly take my spot.

It was $100 to hold your spot. You will get a full refund and be out NOTHING.

It's kinda like buying a car. You place a deposit on it, you take it to be inspected, if it isn't what you thought it was, you take it back and get your deposit back. Pretty simple. Just skipping the inspection part and going straight to the not what you were told/thought it was. Take your deposit and walk away.

Exactly.

Right, so get your refund and move along.
Exactly

Looking as he signed up as the first deadline passed and 0 feedback he's probably Wyatt and instead of working on the receiver sets he's too busy posting here lol.

Not affiliated with nor do I work for MDI. Simply pointing out the facts of the situation and illuminating the whining and entitlement that is so prevalent.
 
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Get a refund and wait for the next pre-order and do it all again, lol.

There are plenty of other non restricted semi's available for $2000 or less, buy one and then you'll have something to play with while you wait. You guys are acting like this is the only rifle on the market worth looking at.

Of course it's wrong to change from anodizing to cerakote but all you have to do is cancel your order if you don't like it. You're not locked into anything. If guys start canceling their orders I bet they smarten up quick because if they don't they'll be out of business. Whining on the forum won't fix anything.

Everyone is right, except MDI, lol.
 
Of course it's wrong to change from anodizing to cerakote but all you have to do is cancel your order if you don't like it. You're not locked into anything. If guys start canceling their orders I bet they smarten up quick because if they don't they'll be out of business. Whining on the forum won't fix anything.

Everyone is right, except MDI, lol.

Actually it appears that "whining on the forums" did cause them to look into fixing the problem.

Do you think Maccabee and/or their retailers don't watch the forums to see how customers respond to these fkups?

Multiple people have already canceled due to this and may more have said they will be cancelling if they don't get this issue sorted out and deliver an annodized receiver as stated in the specifications at the time they paid the deposit.

Maccabee is already looking into another annodizer and has told it's retailers that the cerakote is only temporary.

This is all thanks to customer backlash aka "whining on the forums"


Sure glad I'm only into this thing for a hundred bucks. I'll wait it out and see if they get this issue resolved.
 
MDI was unfortunately faced with a lose lose situation.
Everyone #####ing about the wait and now #####ing about the solution.
But one later, buy one never, buy one now... your choice.

Dude, offering a product with an inferior finish isn't a solution for picking a crappy anodizer in the first place.
If they want it done right they should send it to people who can actually do it well, like whoever ATRS or MRA uses.
 
Dude, offering a product with an inferior finish isn't a solution for picking a crappy anodizer in the first place.
If they want it done right they should send it to people who can actually do it well, like whoever ATRS or MRA uses.

Agreed.

My ATRS and Maple Ridge Armoury products are anodized to perfection. Actually the finish on my MRA handguard matches up within 99% to the finish on my MV. And i highly doubt they were done by the same company.

My point is there are companies out there who do high quality work. Maccabee had enough time to send out scraps of the aluminum they are using to multiple anodizers and choose the best one. Not wait until now to figure it out.

If anyone who is not connected to either of these companies know who does their anodizing hopefully they can pass that info along to MacDef.

This is a unique Canadian product and I would like nothing other than to see them succeed. Even if they need someone to point them in the right direction.
 
MDI was unfortunately faced with a lose lose situation.
Everyone #####ing about the wait and now #####ing about the solution.
But one later, buy one never, buy one now... your choice.

MDI PUT themselves in a lose-lose situation.

String along your customers with falsely estimated dates coupled with an extremely optimistic/fantasyland "estimate", lack of communication about why delays were occurring, inability to stay consistent, canned responses of "we're ensuring top quality" when asked about things... and yet quality was not achieved.

To those that are saying we either "simply have $100" invested and we can get out anytime, blah blah blah... yes you're correct, I only HAD $100 invested in the receiver (no longer apart of this trainwreck), but that doesn't mean because I am no longer invested I no longer have a voice.

MDI is terribly run. Simple as that.

AB_Blaster will surely blow some more smoke that "estimated" time lines arent real and shouldn't ever be honoured, or even remotely try to achieve them, because the definition of "estimate" is so grey.
It is after all "common sense" that estimates should be months, years, decades, etc off because #### it... why even try right?
Lying, or what will now be referred to as "estimating" is just a great business strategy.
 
In MDIs defence, anodizing can be a very finicky process. There aren't a lot of shops that do it well, there are even less that will do firearms. I've had inconsistent results from the exact same finisher on the exact same item, just in separate batches. Used them to do hundreds of parts, they screwed up a batch. Sh!t happens. It's possible all the SLR test parts looked great, and the ball was dropped with the production batch. I wonder if all the anodizing experts here have any experience with the process?

"Just get the guys ATRS uses." It's entirely possible that isn't an option.

I see a new, small company making a strategic decision to ensure they don't delay their highly anticipated product any longer.
 
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