Maccabee Defense SLR information and updates

I'm guessing unless someone severely increases their production capabilities these will all take months/years from time of order to get.
 
Seeing as CSC has answered your questions I will keep this short. A limited selection of triggers is fine. Unfortunately people today feel entitled to every option possible.
Agreed, but its also a strike against this design if the competitions offerings dont place these limits on their design.

The take down is of absolutely zero issue. It's not something done under time contsraints and it is not something done with great regularity, get over it..
It is if I am swapping uppers. Take your own advice.

I call BS on the insurance excuse. IMO ATRS didn't want to offer MV/MH sets as a way of forcing the consumer to grossly over pay for a complete build as well as using their services and/or other parts available. It is no coincidence that shortly after the release of the MD receiver sets that ATRS has come out with their own, and an excuse as to why it will be different from the MV/MH line. Lets not forget that the ATRS offering has not been seen or approved yet...
The insurance issue was legitimate on the modern varmint and modern Hunter models as they used many modified and proprietary parts not just proprietary fitting receivers.

Atrs' new MV-S design was known to be in the works by several at least a good 6 months before first news broke on the MDI SLR, I was one of them.

Counterpoint's are in bold in the above quote.
 
Correct.

However it is being submitted as a varient of the current Modern Varmint Rifle. Theoretically, this should make the FRT approval more of a formality rather than a multi year process.

Which it is not given no proprietary parts or interchange ability with the two.

I would be surprised to see it get a child entry with completely re engineered upper and lower that does not swap between them
 
Which it is not given no proprietary parts or interchange ability with the two.

I would be surprised to see it get a child entry with completely re engineered upper and lower that does not swap between them

Just because parts dont directly swap back and forth does not mean the lineage iisnt traced back to the previous model. (It would be nice if that was the case, it means alot of prohibs would be NR or R respective to their features instead of their history)

Not much sense in bickering about it tho, just wait and see what the lab determines.
 
Just because parts dont directly swap back and forth does not mean the lineage iisnt traced back to the previous model. (It would be nice if that was the case, it means alot of prohibs would be NR or R respective to their features instead of their history)

Not much sense in bickering about it tho, just wait and see what the lab determines.

We are talking a child entry of a parent, not a entirely new frt submission getting a R or prohib status determined by variance or lineage traced to another rifle
 
Anywho... that is a great pic Jiff, where’d ya find that? Been anxiously awaiting more details and info on my next project. I don’t really need any more parts so the impatience is setting in.
 
Counterpoint's are in bold in the above quote.

It's only a strike if you're incapable of using one of the half dozen triggers that already work in the gun. As CSC has already posted, MD is working on different trigger modules which would allow more options. Dismissing the design over initial impressions without full knowledge would be foolish.

Do you need to swap uppers in mere seconds on the regular?? As convenient as take down pins are I have yet to find myself in a situation where swapping tops was a time sensitive operation. The take down is both simple and quick.

I can one up you on prior knowledge and tell you that I had intel on the MD rifle about a year ago... Either way it seems odd that ATRS is pushing for a non proprietary receiver set and have decided to drop it before it's been tested or approved.
 
Do you personally have access to the frt data base ?
yes, but I don't need it to know what kind of entry Rick is hoping for to get a quick approval when it is submitted...... Just read the posts in their own section

Anyway, let's get this back on track.
Rick,
Do you have a projected date you will be ready to submit a sample to the lab? I'm hoping that as you said earlier it's a simple matter of a child entry as a variant of the MV and won't take them a couple years to get it through.

No firm date, we want to make SURE that it works up to our standard and that we have all the bases covered so to speak.
I too am hoping it will be s short inspection time, but we are totally at the mercy of the SFSS/RCMP

Whether or not our guns make any dent in the AR market is hard to say. Many guys could care less as they are only shooting at ranges anyway. Only time will tell.
 
? I'm telling it like it is.

First to have stock on retailers shelves to sell gets my business

And while you're sitting around twiddling your thumbs waiting for the shelves to be stocked, the rest of us will be putting our rifles together and enjoying them.

Supply isn't going to outnumber demand anytime soon.
 
And while you're sitting around twiddling your thumbs waiting for the shelves to be stocked, the rest of us will be putting our rifles together and enjoying them.

Supply isn't going to outnumber demand anytime soon.

Putting together how, you are talking like you already have yours or a confirmed delivery date
 
Putting together how, you are talking like you already have yours or a confirmed delivery date

Didn't csc all but confirm the date around late march? I understand your cautiousness, it's a safe investment for your money to keep it with you till you get the initial reviews. I obviously went the other route and put the deposit for the preorder. I'm fairly certain you will be happily building your own by fall time for sure.
 
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