Marstar is Back

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Not harping on this or beating a dead horse, but there was much speculation during the T2 scam as to what would happen to the parts for the the T2's. People thought that Marstar would lay low for awhile until the uproar died down and then we would see these same rifles broken down into parts and flogged on the internet. It would go a long way if you could tell us the whereabouts and the outcome of these parts.

Will I continue to shop with Marstar? Yes...but with much caution only because John is still involved in some capacity. Dump his ass and most people wouldnt even think twice about buying from you. As long as he is around in even the most minute role, you will need to wear that anchor around your neck. Hopefully you don't venture into the water too deep.

Just so you understand; the T2 issue wasn't the first time John has pulled this kind of BS, there have been many other instances, long before CGN was around even. For those of us who have been around awhile havent forgotten. This was not a one-off.
 
People who were negatively affected by Marstar's past have every given right to be skeptical or even critical if they still wish.

However if deception was the goal here it would make absolutely ZERO sense for the company to continue on with the Marstar name. This alone gives me the confidence that things are only going to start looking up from here.
 
Interesting that you buy a company with that much baggage and not rename it. Seems like an uphill battle.

Regardless, I've ordered from you in the past couple months and have no complaints.

Thanks and good luck - will keep you in mind for future purchases
 
Welcome back. I have been a long time customer and never an issue. I will verify their current customer service excellence, they were watching my thread on my BCL 102 OOB detonation and destruction of the rifle and offered me full store credit with the return of the BNIB 102 BCL sent me even though past the 30 day limit policy. They saw that I did not trust the rifle any more. Waiting on the replacement Stag 10 which should be soon.
 
Still alive, I'd like to respectfully ask you to get out of my head.

Rambones, thank you kindly.

Light Infantry, The rifles are still here and intact. We (before my time) picked up new bolts that were not ground down and replaced/headspaced each one. They're still here, individually cased in guncases. I have re-headspaced a few just to confirm that everything was re-done correctly (it was on the ones I tested), and have test fired a couple myself.

I'm only aware of the T2 issue, I'd be interested to hear more about your experience if you'd be willing to send me a PM or give me a call at the office. It would be useful to me so I can better understand others who share your position.

SKSbitten, I look forward to doing business at some point. Please don't be shy to reach out or call if you have any questions.

Saintly, Thanks for the support, hope we'll see you around again at some point.

Slash, Thanks for the kind words, I'll see if I can get you an update.

Payam
 
Pretty sure that no matter how or if John is involved, now that the new owners are out of pocket and need to recoup their financial investment and staking the shaky reputation of Marstar on it, it would be foolish and business ending to repeat or even been seen to try and deceive their customers again.

They know that CGNers have long memories and will be watching closely for potential scams and customer service issues from Marstar.

In fact, I predict that the new owners will have the best customer service and competitive prices to overcome the past history. Time to buy is now, before things potentially change again in the future....( maybe!)

This sums up my thoughts as well, I agree that now is the time to buy before the honeymoon is over, right now there is a big emphasis on customer service, time will tell if that lasts.

I had over a decade of good dealings with Marstar before the T2 fiasco burned me. To be honest I am still hesitant to deal with you guys again, knowing that there are employees from the previous regime still around. It was not just John who had the attitude, some of the employees I spoke with while trying to deal with the T2 issues were just as bad.

Forgive me for saying how I feel, I wish you all and your future customers the best of luck
 
Good luck, but yes, us guys who've been around here a long time won't forget John's berating of the very people he scammed using this forum. A real peice of work. Its sad to hear you've maintained any business relationship with him whatsoever.
 
Good luck, but yes, us guys who've been around here a long time won't forget John's berating of the very people he scammed using this forum. A real peice of work. Its sad to hear you've maintained any business relationship with him whatsoever.

Maybe it has to do with the full-auto license. I've dealt with them several times without incident.
 
I'm of the personal belief that you shouldn't deny someone the chance to redeem themselves, especially when guilt by association is a such a low standard for judgment.

Thank you everyone for your posts,
Payam

You are willingly doing business with a person who has a long track record of dishonesty and the cherry on top is him selling dangerous firearms that may injure or kill the users just to make quick profit.

Disapproving his continued involvement in the company means we are demonstrating a low standard of judgement?

You are making it very hard to believe anything at Marstar has changed, the rotten core remains active.
 
I have bought from Marstar. No problems. However, I had not heard of the T2 issue until this thread. I have only had my pal a couple years. Seems like the new guy is trying to start fresh. I'll keep buying from them when they have what I want at a good price. I do understand the people who feel wronged have a right to vent. I know I would. Good luck Marstar, you might need it.
 
You are willingly doing business with a person who has a long track record of dishonesty and the cherry on top is him selling dangerous firearms that may injure or kill the users just to make quick profit.

Disapproving his continued involvement in the company means we are demonstrating a low standard of judgement?

You are making it very hard to believe anything at Marstar has changed, the rotten core remains active.

We're misunderstanding eachother here.
I was talking about the employees specifically.
 
Pity on the trench guns, but the 1897 riot is still a good product, and more useful with the chokes.

Being still very new to the circuit I'm reading this thread with great interest and without any preconceptions of Marstar. I really do appreciate being able to read all of the candid discussion from the new owners, the critical long-time CGN members, and from those who have pledged their ongoing support.

The M-97 is definitely at the top of my wish list and hope to place my order closer to Thanksgiving. I'm also very happy to have this opportunity and look forward to doing continued business with Marstar.

Will get signed up to the Marstar newsletter asap..

:cheers:
 
We're misunderstanding eachother here.
I was talking about the employees specifically.

Whoever runs Marstar now made them guilty by association by allowing John to be involved at all.

Johns items are still for sale and those new employees are involved in helping him profit from the company.

Now for this part......

Grove, you're entirely free to make up your own mind, and I don't blame you if your doubtful. However I'd ask you to consider the following;
1) John has been in this industry a long time, is of retirement age, and had no problem telling people what he thought.

Explain to us how that is supposed to be a positive?
 
I understand all bitterness from people who had bad experience with them in the past but it changes nothing for me at this point.
Marstar has some cool stuff, I bought from them few times this year no problem - so I’ll take my chances, its your personal choice anyway.
And it’s great they are back here now - maybe we can get some better deals and updates about new stuff they have in stock.
Stay positive ppl.
Cheers,
 
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