My 22 shoots 1/2" groups at 50 yards/meters all day! Really? Prove it!

Boy, this thread sure has gotten slow after grauhanen got snowed out of his range for the season :p Do y'all remember this jovial fellow?

alberta guy said:
I have read through the whole "My 22 shoots 1/2" groups at 50 yards/meters all day! Really? Prove it!" Thread. IMO That is not a true reality of what your guns shoots. I think you should have to put up a 25 group page...So how about a real challenge?
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I got my tuner back from being bored out for my barrel just after Christmas, and today was decent enough to go out and test it, 3C calm winds but foggy. Got my ammo order last week with more Lapua Polar Biathlon, some SK Biathlon Sport, SK Rifle Match, SK Standard Plus, and a couple tins of SK Magazine (great "bulk" ammo ;)). I used the Purdy PRX to set the tuner for the 7th harmonic, being setting 273 on my Harrell's tuner with a heavy weight ring attached. First couple targets I explored above and below the calculated setting, since it is just a starting point and one cannot expect to be in tune at the calculated setting, but it should get you in the zone + or - 30 clicks in either direction. After shooting 275 rounds I settled on setting 268 and proceeded to thoroughly vet this setting. I was not disappointed.

Rifle: CZ 455, Custom Lilja 3-groove straight 0.850" 24" barrel, Boyd's Pro-Varmint stock, Fly Trigger
Scope: Leupold Competition 45x, EGW 0 MOA rail, Burris Signature High rings
Ammo: SK Biathlon Sport
Caldwell Rock front rest, medium front bag, Caldwell rear bag
Groups: 0.293", 0.349", 0.278", 0.186", 0.349", 0.322", 0.338", 0.312", 0.395", 0.271", 0.205", 0.254", 0.376", 0.394", 0.395", 0.269", 0.291", 0.353", 0.384", 0.307"
20 group average = 0.316"

Yeah, I'd say it shoots 1/2" all day.







The inside of the red circle is 0.480" for reference



Well, I didn't get the 25 groups demanded by alberta guy, but it's pretty obvious after 20 groups that there ain't no "getting lucky" on this target. Come spring once the temps are above 10C, and North Sylva gets more RWS R-50 in stock, I have ambitions of getting this rifle into the 1/4" club. This wasn't bad for cold weather shooting with mid-low grade training ammo, but I'm sure I can get it doing better. I'm not even sure it's properly tuned yet, maybe it'd be better at a different setting, or perhaps the 9th harmonic instead of the 7th I used? More weight, less weight? So many variables to test, but the rifle definitely would not have done this without the tuner, no way, no how.
 
Geez..... I know I have a dozen or so match rifles that are surly accurate enough to meet this challenge. My issue is..... its seems to be somewhat of a waste of good match ammo just to prove a point. lol.

Ill stick to my 100 yard 22lr shooting.... more fun!
 
Got out today with my new (to me) CZ455 with Lilja match barrel sitting in a new un-bedded/pillared Boyd's pro Varmint. Shot off a bipod and rear bag from the bench. Great weather today!

CZ455 Boyd's Pro Varmint
S&B PMII 5-25 H59
SK Rifle Match
Bipod/Rear Bag
50m

Group 1: .381"
Group 2: .476"
Group 3: .287"
Group 4: .448"
Group 5: .380"

Average: 0.394"
Smallest: 0.287"

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Loose-Cannon said:
My issue is..... its seems to be somewhat of a waste of good match ammo just to prove a point. lol.

Ill stick to my 100 yard 22lr shooting.... more fun!
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In the spirit of the challenge, only 5 groups are required to qualify, and ammo like SK Std + will do the job more often than not. That's a meager $3.50 to invest in this challenge ;). I also do quite a bit of shooting at 100 yards, I take it down to 50 for ammo testing and this was my first day with the tuner. I usually shoot targets at 50 that are suitable for posting in this thread if something good happens in the course of my testing, I'm not usually intentionally attempting this challenge but success is a happy side effect given how I arrange my targets. Today was different with the tuner, not the target I usually shoot, but boy did it feel good!

chrisward3 said:
Got out today with my new (to me) CZ455 with Lilja match barrel
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Today must be CZ 455/Lilja day, lol, good job sir.
 
RabidM4U5 said:
Boy, this thread sure has gotten slow after grauhanen got snowed out of his range for the season :p Do y'all remember this jovial fellow?





I got my tuner back from being bored out for my barrel just after Christmas, and today was decent enough to go out and test it, 3C calm winds but foggy. Got my ammo order last week with more Lapua Polar Biathlon, some SK Biathlon Sport, SK Rifle Match, SK Standard Plus, and a couple tins of SK Magazine (great "bulk" ammo ;)). I used the Purdy PRX to set the tuner for the 7th harmonic, being setting 273 on my Harrell's tuner with a heavy weight ring attached. First couple targets I explored above and below the calculated setting, since it is just a starting point and one cannot expect to be in tune at the calculated setting, but it should get you in the zone + or - 30 clicks in either direction. After shooting 275 rounds I settled on setting 268 and proceeded to thoroughly vet this setting. I was not disappointed.

Rifle: CZ 455, Custom Lilja 3-groove straight 0.850" 24" barrel, Boyd's Pro-Varmint stock, Fly Trigger
Scope: Leupold Competition 45x, EGW 0 MOA rail, Burris Signature High rings
Ammo: SK Biathlon Sport
Caldwell Rock front rest, medium front bag, Caldwell rear bag
Groups: 0.293", 0.349", 0.278", 0.186", 0.349", 0.322", 0.338", 0.312", 0.395", 0.271", 0.205", 0.254", 0.376", 0.394", 0.395", 0.269", 0.291", 0.353", 0.384", 0.307"
20 group average = 0.316"

Yeah, I'd say it shoots 1/2" all day.







The inside of the red circle is 0.480" for reference



Well, I didn't get the 25 groups demanded by alberta guy, but it's pretty obvious after 20 groups that there ain't no "getting lucky" on this target. Come spring once the temps are above 10C, and North Sylva gets more RWS R-50 in stock, I have ambitions of getting this rifle into the 1/4" club. This wasn't bad for cold weather shooting with mid-low grade training ammo, but I'm sure I can get it doing better. I'm not even sure it's properly tuned yet, maybe it'd be better at a different setting, or perhaps the 9th harmonic instead of the 7th I used? More weight, less weight? So many variables to test, but the rifle definitely would not have done this without the tuner, no way, no how.
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Fantastic shooting. I added you to the successful list.
 
chrisward3 said:
Got out today with my new (to me) CZ455 with Lilja match barrel sitting in a new un-bedded/pillared Boyd's pro Varmint. Shot off a bipod and rear bag from the bench. Great weather today!

CZ455 Boyd's Pro Varmint
S&B PMII 5-25 H59
SK Rifle Match
Bipod/Rear Bag
50m

Group 1: .381"
Group 2: .476"
Group 3: .287"
Group 4: .448"
Group 5: .380"

Average: 0.394"
Smallest: 0.287"

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Nice shooting. I added you to the successful list.
 
Thanks guys for the inspiration, i like seeing what you are shooting. While I have a number of guns that are capable of the challenge, my trigger control is not what it should be. 4 5 shot groups often no 5-5 yet. Most of my 22 shooting is at gophers and often a little rushed. Still like punching paper, so thanks again for all the great posts.
 
Canadiankeeper said:
Where is the poster who started the thread saying that this challenge isn't a true representation of the gun? This will shut him up lol.
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Where is the thread? Would love to comment that guy who can't get his name on the wall directly...

IF it was intended to be a true representation of the gun ALONE, it would be done with the gun secured in a vice, remotely fired on an indoor range. It was never intended to be solely a test of the guns performance....

It is a test of the braggart, and their ability to actually substantiate a wild claim. And it is a test of the humble, to embark upon a journey of learning that involves setting a loft goal, and seeing it through to the end.

Sure the rifle plays a part. There is a reason there aren't many 10/22s on the list, and that ones that are seem to be heavily modified....
 
Cameron SS said:
Where is the thread? Would love to comment that guy who can't get his name on the wall directly...

IF it was intended to be a true representation of the gun ALONE, it would be done with the gun secured in a vice, remotely fired on an indoor range. It was never intended to be solely a test of the guns performance....

It is a test of the braggart, and their ability to actually substantiate a wild claim. And it is a test of the humble, to embark upon a journey of learning that involves setting a loft goal, and seeing it through to the end.

Sure the rifle plays a part. There is a reason there aren't many 10/22s on the list, and that ones that are seem to be heavily modified....
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https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...-groups-at-50-yards-meters-all-day!-Challange
 
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