NDS-18S (AR-180b) Lower Receiver

The cam pin location and corresponding control surface would have to be moved to the top of the receiver to utilize an AR15 bolt.

The trick would be to have an impact area for the piston, and yet have the control surface come down far enough to work on the cam pin.

This is based on the premise of keeping the piston system.


If you toss out any desire to have it look like an original upper and gas system you will have a much easier time.
 
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I've got some ideas banging around in this head to deal with the cam pin. ;)

While not exact, I think it would look pretty close. Likely only a market for it in Canada though.
 
robab said:
If anyone can hit the mark on about $1000 price point for complete rifles I'm sure they would move like hot cakes.
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I'm sure they would but this isn't 1983.
You're asking for a quality rifle built with modern manufacturing equipment, at today's labour costs, and todays low dollar and you want it for the price of a plastic Keltec SU-16.
We'd all like that but Canada doesn't have the market to support building something like that and it would never fly in the US since they can already buy a quality AR for $1000 with all the aftermarket support you could ever dream for. This means that no manufacturer could produce a rifle like that for the price you want and actually stay in business. That's why every quality non restricted semi auto 223 is $2000+ in Canada.
 
CyprusTM said:
1500$ price point for a NR would be perfect.
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I've seen used AR180B's and XCR's go for that much but I doubt you'll ever see a quality rifle built for that price new. Considering that a POS made in China norinco T97 is almost $1000 and a Kel-Tec SU-16 is around there as well if you want something built by a reputable manufacturer with quality design and materials $1500 is just not going to cut it.
We need a Canadian company like Dlask or NEA to build something in order to avoid all the import/export costs but even then I guarantee it will be over $2000 if they could build something.
It's really not worth the risk of investment for them, there just aren't enough people in Canada that would fork over the cash for something like that to make it worth while. It's too much risk considering all the money they would have to put in up front and then risk having the RCMP class it restricted for no good reason other than they feel like it that day.
 
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SteelCap said:
Make the upper flat top would make it much better.
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I prefer the rifle with the iron sights, putting the rail on top then an optic and it ends up too high to get a good cheek weld due to the design of the stock. More of a jaw weld which isn't great.
In order to run an optic properly you would also need to add a cheek rest.
It's a great rifle just the way it came from the factory, I haven't found a reason to modify mine at all yet, if anything, swapping in a better trigger group would be about all I'd do.
Spending a few hundred dollars to replace a lower simply because you're paranoid it might break some day seems silly when you could buy a lot of ammo for the the same price.

Still waiting for someone to post what it costs to get one of these to your door all in.
 
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