Never buy anything from Volqartsen! *Updated with complete transcript*

Hey Mr. S~lots of people in this thread are "in your corner" with the situation as you've described it, but you're losing ground with remarks like that. You framed your initial post as a sort of warning to forum members, then proceeded to show the correspondence between yourself and VQ....in which one thing became glaringly obvious~you default to offensive language to accentuate your point when things aren't going your way.

VQ dropped the ball, you didn't accept a refund as an option, so you rolled the dice and lost.

Yeah, it's all good.

I'm just here to "share" the experience I had with a firearms manufacturer.

That's it.

I'm not here to make friends or concern myself with what other people think. And I certainly didn't ask anyone to "pick sides".

If you like VQ products, great. If you're on the fence, hopefully my story influenced you to think twice.
 
Yeah, it's all good.

I'm just here to "share" the experience I had with a firearms manufacturer.

That's it.

I'm not here to make friends or concern myself with what other people think. And I certainly didn't ask anyone to "pick sides".

If you like VQ products, great. If you're on the fence, hopefully my story influenced you to think twice.

So, why make this post???
You have good reason to be mad. You have NO reason to talk like this to any people about 90$........
 
So, why make this post???
You have good reason to be mad. You have NO reason to talk like this to any people about 90$........

It's $90!

What, is $90 nothing to you?

I wouldn't just walk up to some bum and handover $90 of my cash for no reason.

Let me ask you, if a cashier rips you off $10 in change for something, would you get mad right away? What if it took 7 emails to head office and 5 months to get your $10 back, would you be mad then?
 
i think he has the reason to be mad but tell your freinds and family and dont buy from them any more it can happen its good you let people know so they know nothing can go 100% all the time. I my self would take the chance because every time you do business on line you take a chance.
 
It's $90!

What, is $90 nothing to you?

I wouldn't just walk up to some bum and handover $90 of my cash for no reason.

Let me ask you, if a cashier rips you off $10 in change for something, would you get mad right away? What if it took 7 emails to head office and 5 months to get your $10 back, would you be mad then?

They never stole your money, they offered you a refund and you declined.
You have a right to be angry over the poor customer service but not to call the man a thief.
I would have told you to #### off and been done with it at that point.
You had me on your side up until then.
I feel certain that you will receive a cheque in the mail for the $90 or a refund on your credit card at which point a real man would post a public apology.
 
I understand the principal of 90$'s...wouldn't matter if it was 90 cents...
That said, at no point (in the posted dialogue) has it been suggested that you're patronage wasn't appreciated nor, that your funds were going to be retained.

When the offer of examining your receivers for a custom fit of your first purchase was made, it's clear the "run" of current replacements is not available...this is bigger offer than you realize. (I'm not a 10/22 guy but, confirmation of 10/22 guys may help...) "The" Scott was going to examine your receivers in his shop...the very name you're trying to defame has done more for those 10/22's than Ruger themsleves! 10/22 guys...would you like to have "the Scott" custom fit your pieces?

From a "customer service" standpoint, very early on, you were offered a refund...you were informed of "factory issues". An offer to "custom fit" the parts was made on top of that....You are "one man" (in a country who's total purchases may not add up to a single state's worth) buying from a high output shop and, STILL got one on one correspondence...The last of which, is clearly stating that, dealing with you has left them only one option. Returning your money... You kind of limited your own options with this thread...

Cyber-era has fuelled this issue. Now means "now" and, "soon" means in an hour or so..we've been conditioned to forget the oldies:
"Good things are worth waiting for"", "Patience is a virtue" etc...
I'ts pretty clear you've tested their patience...
 
I understand the principal of 90$'s...wouldn't matter if it was 90 cents...
That said, at no point (in the posted dialogue) has it been suggested that you're patronage wasn't appreciated nor, that your funds were going to be retained.

When the offer of examining your receivers for a custom fit of your first purchase was made, it's clear the "run" of current replacements is not available...this is bigger offer than you realize. (I'm not a 10/22 guy but, confirmation of 10/22 guys may help...) "The" Scott was going to examine your receivers in his shop...the very name you're trying to defame has done more for those 10/22's than Ruger themsleves! 10/22 guys...would you like to have "the Scott" custom fit your pieces?

From a "customer service" standpoint, very early on, you were offered a refund...you were informed of "factory issues". An offer to "custom fit" the parts was made on top of that....You are "one man" (in a country who's total purchases may not add up to a single state's worth) buying from a high output shop and, STILL got one on one correspondence...The last of which, is clearly stating that, dealing with you has left them only one option. Returning your money... You kind of limited your own options with this thread...

Cyber-era has fuelled this issue. Now means "now" and, "soon" means in an hour or so..we've been conditioned to forget the oldies:
"Good things are worth waiting for"", "Patience is a virtue" etc...
I'ts pretty clear you've tested their patience...

Right.....

Maybe you MISSED the part where I waited 5 MONTHS for the return of my parts?

5 MONTHS

We're not talking about building a one-off custom gun here. These are "off the shelf" non-custom pieces that any retailer who sells 10/22 accessories would typically carry; P&D for example.

Did I blow it out of proportion? I don't care. We're not here to judge my inter-personal skills. While, I'm not anyways.
 
I had an unruly customer a couple weeks back, a woman and her husband, she tried threatening me with him.

I explained to them that if they want to "talk" with me about the issues they were having like adults then most definitely we will correct the issue as quick as we possibly can.

I also explained that being as busy as we are if they don't want to discuss the issue normally and try to intimate me that their job would go as absolute last priority.

The issues remained the issues no matter what attitude the customer/client takes and how loud they want to yell it will NOT speed up the process.

This also wasn't a little $90.00 issue either.

Be civil with whoever is providing your service and things will go much smoother, sometimes s**t happens, that is life, deal with it and move on.

Bottom line, keep cool and understanding, things will work out better.

The retailer in this case seems to have done things well within the normal realm of customer service.

Like I stated earlier , may be time to move on.
 
I didn't miss the 5 month wait. I seem to understand they "why" of it...unless, (and it would make for a cool thread), one of the best in the "aftermarket 10/22" world is deliberately sitting on your parts, just for kicks.

What you provided was, proof the vendor offered you the refund. You didn't want it. He offered to custom fit the parts that were available. You didn't want that either. You want something that, seems to be "unavailable" but, don't want to wait for them to become available.. You were provided a reason as to why your parts haven't been replaced and, chalked it up as an excuse.

You now are warning other folks about buying things that are unavailable will take a long time so, get them elsewhere...in 8 short pages?

I feel for your 5 month wait...optimist me is thinking that you're lucky it's just for .22 parts and, not an organ needed for a transplant.
 
A good deal of logic and reason in these last couple posts.
But go ahead, jump back up on the soapbox if you like, folks will keep hurling tomatoes at ya :D
 
Get real. Unlike you, I refuse to take it up the ass.

Your choice of words tell me that you must be a quite young fellow with little money to spend. You mentioned that you posted your experience also on other boards and when they deleted your rant, you moved on to here.


You are also twisting and turning the story, so it sounds good in your favour.

The manufacturer was nice in communicating but is just not able to fulfill your needs and offered a refund.

Did you ever bother to pick up the phone?

What is your problem?


To be right, get applause, ruin the business? Nothing of which ain't happen.


Maybe it's time to chill a bit and focus on your life again.
 
Soap Operas

Wow, after reading the posts after my original one, I just have to get back in on this one!

I do agree that this is a failure in Customer Service. However, it is an even bigger failure in the Customer side of how it was and is still being handled.

As Shakespeare once wrote, "Methinks he doth protest too much." As BUFFDOG once wrote, "Some people have highly inflated opinions of themselves."

From the start, the OP has threatened to cause trouble for the Manufacturer. He claims that this is "his thread" and it seems anyone who does not have the same opinion as he does is not supposed to make any comments. But, the moment this thread was posted on a public forum, it became a public thread, and therefore fair game for different opinions, not just those of the OP.

In Post #25, with all the correspondence posted, it really shows the lack of common courtesy toward someone else in this manner.

On August 10th, the OP demanded satisfaction on his terms, or else.
On August 16th, Volquartsen replied explaining machinery problems and estimated it would PROBABLY be 30 days before it could resume production.
Also on August 16th, Volquartsen offered a full refund or replacement. THE OP CHOSE REPLACEMENT WITH NEW BOLT HANDLES.

So after waiting 6 days after the 30 day period, the computer was cranked up and an insulting e-mail was sent to Volquartsen in whch the OP treatened dire consequences, accused Volquartsen of "screwing" him, and used foul and abusive language, which, I see, has been blanked out. (Edited ? ###Xing bolt handles?)

The OP then gives instructions to Volquartsen to "KEEP THE MONEY AND BOLT HANDLES", and adds "YOU TWIT." In the following sentence, the OP wishes that Volquartsen "loses 10,000 times the money STOLEN." I might be a bit confused here, but didn't the OP just tell Volquartsen to KEEP THE MONEY but then accuse them of stealing it.

But, the "warmest regards" the OP wishes Volquartsen apparently shows that he is a nice guy, and wishes them well!;)

In contrast, the polite reply from Volquartsen still offers several options:
1-replacement when new ones are ready - (can't send what you don't have)
2.- send receivers so VQ can modify them for original VQ handles
3- was polite as to the accusation of stealing the OP's money
4- Explains why no handles currently available because of machine failure
5- repeats the offer to refund the OP's money

And, of course, there is always someone who doesn't get "the word." Even though the OP has been twice offered his money refund, a later post advises him to let the Manufacturer keep the money. Oh, well.

And then after the refund offers and such, the OP posts "Get real. Unlike you, I refuse to take it up the ass." While there is inconvenience and frustration, I am afraid that I can not see the logic of this statement if a twice offered refund is not taken.

Or is it d:h:?

Probably the most relevant observation was made by 22LRGUY in which he said:

"Hey Mr. S~lots of people in this thread are "in your corner" with the situation as you've described it, but you're losing ground with remarks like that. You framed your initial post as a sort of warning to forum members, then proceeded to show the correspondence between yourself and VQ....in which one thing became glaringly obvious~you default to offensive language to accentuate your point when things aren't going your way.

VQ dropped the ball, you didn't accept a refund as an option, so you rolled the dice and lost."

In post # 73, the OP is still slanting the story. "Maybe you MISSED the part where I waited 5 MONTHS for the return of my parts?
5 MONTHS
We're not talking about building a one-off custom gun here. These are "off the shelf" non-custom pieces that any retailer who sells 10/22 accessories would typically carry"

YOU WAITED 5 MONTHS FOR THE RETURN OF YOUR PARTS? If the newer bolt handles are not able to be produced, how can they be sent to you?

This is like a daytime Soap Opera. We can tune in a couple of weeks from now, and pick up the plot in almost the same place where we left it. One of our members observed the impatience of the younger generation, especially when they don't get their way. Kind of like the famous television commercial where the little kid acts up, throws a tantrum, knocks things over in the store, and yells an screams when he is not allowed his item. It was an advertisement for Condoms. Perchance threads like this could be worked into such a commercial as one of the finest examples of the argument FOR birth control.
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