New 12G under-barrel shotgun - coming soon
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unstableryan
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Anyone suggest putting it on a Chiappa little badger yet?
Depending how it patterns and what the velocity is that could be a deadly grouse combo! (although isn't that rail plastic?...lol)
wintercabin
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Aluminum please! If it functions the same then the lesser weight is a plus!
Chiappa Little Badger has plastic rails. Need at least solid aluminum, not aluminum rail bolted to a plastic handguard.
Great idea. Again, keep in mind material limitation. Older crossbows had aluminum frames and can be used for this purpose. Not sure if modern are made with aluminum frame, but I am not a crossbow expert.
The barrel is too short to have a choke, so the pattern really depends on the ammunition. Containers provide the most narrow pattern. Small shot is mostly useless. Shot #4 (1 Oz load, 2-3/4") penetrates 3/4" plywood at 25 meters. Need to test several types and choose what suits you best.
Depending what are the priorities. Here's what we think:
- aluminum provides better corrosion resistance - the gun in survival role is likely to be exposed to humid conditions for long periods of time,
- the firearm is single-shot and will have less rounds fired than semiautomatic, hence the lifespan priority,
- aluminum alloy that we are testing is about as strong as the 4140 steel used in the original design, but any aluminum is easier to scratch (and is also easy to touch up). Steel bushings and inserts in critical places will maximize lifespan,
- when mounted on a rifle/carbine, the less weight the better as it affects the overall weapon balance,
- we are planning to produce a stock that would turn it into a very compact standalone firearm with a weight of around 1kg for aluminum receiver option, an ideal outdoorsman survival firearm with different caliber adapters, red dot option, etc.,
- use of aluminum instead of steel will reduce MSRP a little (the main cost driver, however, is production volume),
This is our reasoning, but WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW YOUR OPINION!)
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johnny the boy
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Tic toc Mr Wick tick tock!
IMO aluminum with coatings and selective steel parts is the way to go.
I'm sure you've already tested this internally, but it would be worth putting the device on a sled and measuring exactly how much rearward force is being generated upon firing given how short the effective barrel is.
Felt recoil is very similar to a full size 12 Ga shotgun. Combined weight of rifle + Behemoth was about 3.5kg
That would be really cool to see
Personally I'd probably prefer steel, but would have zero problems if it was aluminum
That tracks.
To reiterate, if you haven't already it would be good to know exactly how much force is being generated by the Behemoth by itself under the maximal conditions it supports (3.5" slug?).
Having the lateral force in joules would help users calculate shear force and decide what exactly is sturdy enough to mount the thing to.
It would be a useful number to include in the user manual is what I'm saying.
Steel with a proper CERAKOTE. Not a phosphate or black oxide finish please. Or hot blue them. Aluminum is cool, but a gun is a tool, if I have to be worried about damaging my underbarrel shotgun because I drop the rifle, it's useless.
