Thank you very much, that's good to know! Now I just need to find the right one! So many options, it's overwhelming! Cheers
New to PCC, need advice on scope
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The higher the magnification range, the more $$$ you'll need to get decent glass.
As for LPVO choice, you'd want something that has great 1X performance and a dot that is daylight bright.
It certainly isn't cheap, but the Delta Stryker 1-6 is pretty nice IMO
Oh ya I just looked into the Delta Stryker, out I'd my budget! Very nice though! I'd like to pay $500 ballpark.
VRT as of VR6 turbo or?
I have a Corrado VR6...
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I find with cheaper optics that the worst setting is the max magnification, things look better to my eyes below max magnification.
9mm PCC's are fun guns to me and I prefer shooting them off hand at reactive targets... not something I would sit at a bench with other then sighting in. You've allready got a red dot so you can try that anytime.
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I put a 1-6x24 illuminated reticle Bushnell prime or something on mine. Feels like it matches.
Thank you that makes a lot of sense what you are saying about the optics at max.
I see what you mean about PCC"s not being a bench type of rifle. I've never thought of it that way and I think you're right about this. Maybe I should be looking at my new purchase this way. Keep the 22 for the bench... You brought up really good constructive points and made me understand better and I thank you for that.
Thank you for pitching in. If I end up with a scope, it will be a 1-6x24 as well. Cheers
Could also try one of these by Discovery Optics. Chinese made but by all accounts a lot of scope/features for the money. Also has a full warranty apparently.
https://www.discoveryopt.com/DISCOVERYOPT-ED-AR-1-8X24IR-FFP-Optics-Scopes.html
I bought a 4-16 FFP 30mm tube scope from them to try out for $89.95 USD delivered. Came with rings, sun shade, lens caps and throw lever. Took 2 months to arrive (during post strike) but arrive it did! I emailed a couple of times over that period and always got a response.
I swapped out the rings for a mount, but otherwise I’ve been pretty impressed. Glass is very good quality (as good if not better than my Burris/Vortex scopes) and build quality too. Has exposed turrets with positive clicks. Had it out in the snow a couple weeks ago and it got pretty covered but held up great.
I bought it out of curiosity - already had a scope more than twice the price on that particular rifle and didn’t need it -but I’ll be keeping it on there now.
Discount codes also abound on internet providing a further 10% off, meaning you should be able to pick one up for ~$250 CAD delivered.
https://www.discoveryopt.com/DISCOVERYOPT-ED-AR-1-8X24IR-FFP-Optics-Scopes.html
I bought a 4-16 FFP 30mm tube scope from them to try out for $89.95 USD delivered. Came with rings, sun shade, lens caps and throw lever. Took 2 months to arrive (during post strike) but arrive it did! I emailed a couple of times over that period and always got a response.
I swapped out the rings for a mount, but otherwise I’ve been pretty impressed. Glass is very good quality (as good if not better than my Burris/Vortex scopes) and build quality too. Has exposed turrets with positive clicks. Had it out in the snow a couple weeks ago and it got pretty covered but held up great.
I bought it out of curiosity - already had a scope more than twice the price on that particular rifle and didn’t need it -but I’ll be keeping it on there now.
Discount codes also abound on internet providing a further 10% off, meaning you should be able to pick one up for ~$250 CAD delivered.
Yes indeed, i had a swapped mk2 a while back
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What are you planning on using it for is the big question...
If you are plinking out to 100yrds or so, get a cheap lpvo. You are not going to be shooting much accuracy with a sterling R9 out past say 75yrd. So dumping $ into an expensive distance optic is rather pointless. 9mm opens up from a dinner plate to a barn door at or past 100
If you are thinking of competition use (steel challenge, IPSC, etc), put a red dot in it. Can't run magnified optics in PCC division (what's left of it).
Find an optic that fits your needs, and your wallet. They are out there, and you don't need to spend thousands to get serviceable glass for a PCC
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Morp and Alpha Charlie bring up good points about budget optics out to 150 yards or so, there are some pretty nice budget 1-6 optics out there.
I picked up a couple inexpensive S6 vector/victor 1-6 scopes a couple years ago for and they look surprisingly good, the reticle choices out there will be another consideration but you won't really know what you like till you try some. If it's illuminated , I prefer just the dot or a circle dot illumination and don't like optics that light up the hold over points or an entire "Christmas tree"!
The S6 has a Christmas Tree style reticle but the main aimpoint is more circle dot and stands out clearly, I have heard people here on CGN that really like the Vector Prism optics as well but I have not tried them.
That primary arms Nova you linked to looks like a nice option for a clean hunting type reticle, simple basic hold overs and a nice crisp dot center aim point,
I picked up a couple inexpensive S6 vector/victor 1-6 scopes a couple years ago for and they look surprisingly good, the reticle choices out there will be another consideration but you won't really know what you like till you try some. If it's illuminated , I prefer just the dot or a circle dot illumination and don't like optics that light up the hold over points or an entire "Christmas tree"!
The S6 has a Christmas Tree style reticle but the main aimpoint is more circle dot and stands out clearly, I have heard people here on CGN that really like the Vector Prism optics as well but I have not tried them.
That primary arms Nova you linked to looks like a nice option for a clean hunting type reticle, simple basic hold overs and a nice crisp dot center aim point,
You keep bringing the goods!Could also try one of these by Discovery Optics. Chinese made but by all accounts a lot of scope/features for the money. Also has a full warranty apparently.
https://www.discoveryopt.com/DISCOVERYOPT-ED-AR-1-8X24IR-FFP-Optics-Scopes.html
I bought a 4-16 FFP 30mm tube scope from them to try out for $89.95 USD delivered. Came with rings, sun shade, lens caps and throw lever. Took 2 months to arrive (during post strike) but arrive it did! I emailed a couple of times over that period and always got a response.
I swapped out the rings for a mount, but otherwise I’ve been pretty impressed. Glass is very good quality (as good if not better than my Burris/Vortex scopes) and build quality too. Has exposed turrets with positive clicks. Had it out in the snow a couple weeks ago and it got pretty covered but held up great.
I bought it out of curiosity - already had a scope more than twice the price on that particular rifle and didn’t need it -but I’ll be keeping it on there now.
Discount codes also abound on internet providing a further 10% off, meaning you should be able to pick one up for ~$250 CAD delivered.
I've got to say that 1-8x24 for about $250 CAD shipped is hard to beat. There's a 1-6x24 for $55 less as well. I'm thinking 1-6 might be enough, I'll run it mostly from 1 to 4. Did you pay duty on it? Ya it's Chinese made but most budget scope are Chinese made so... I don't want to spend thousands anyways, first I don't have the money and second like many said a PCC does not need that. The Primary Arms is very nice but it's $650 all in plus the mount for a 1-6 and it's $500 for a prism dot. That saving buys me a 1000 rounds... I'm thinking about it very seriously! That would give me a "cheap" alternative to try a scope on the PCC... Thanks again, I owe you!
Thank you for your comment, I appreciate the knowledge pouring in, this is very helpful. See, because I'm new to this I never thought a 9mm would be a good choice for less than 100 yrs. I'm starting to think more and more about a cheaper optic in the 1-6 range and I do have my red dot which is also a middle of the road. I'll be able to shoot with both and not break the bank. Once I figure out my preference, I could always upgrade. Thanks for your time
I agree with you, they and you are sure bringing good points. I will look into the Victor optics you are suggesting, that one and the one Morp suggested seems like a really good bang for your buck. Thanks for helping me out with my decision, much appreciated!Morp and Alpha Charlie bring up good points about budget optics out to 150 yards or so, there are some pretty nice budget 1-6 optics out there.
I picked up a couple inexpensive S6 vector/victor 1-6 scopes a couple years ago for and they look surprisingly good, the reticle choices out there will be another consideration but you won't really know what you like till you try some. If it's illuminated , I prefer just the dot or a circle dot illumination and don't like optics that light up the hold over points or an entire "Christmas tree"!
The S6 has a Christmas Tree style reticle but the main aimpoint is more circle dot and stands out clearly, I have heard people here on CGN that really like the Vector Prism optics as well but I have not tried them.
That primary arms Nova you linked to looks like a nice option for a clean hunting type reticle, simple basic hold overs and a nice crisp dot center aim point,
Cabelas currently has the Sig Romeo5x on sale for $200. There is no better sight for the money than the Romeo5.
https://www.cabelas.ca/category/red-dot-sights/1479?brand=SIG SAUER
The Sig Romeo5 gets stellar reviews all over the internets.
https://www.cabelas.ca/category/red-dot-sights/1479?brand=SIG SAUER
The Sig Romeo5 gets stellar reviews all over the internets.
I did the exact opposite. LPVO are fine if the gun only ever gets shot at paper on a range. However in the field, in the real world, LPVO suck because the reticle illumination is just not bright enough. Standing in sun and looking into shadows at a target that is not white causes the reticle to disappear. Not good if you need to be able to engage a target quickly. Red dots have their limitations but at least the dot can always be seen regardless of lighting conditions or target colour.
I agree with you, as far as red dot go, Romeo 5 is top of the lift for best bang for your buck. I did bought one for my Sig Sauer PCP air gun
You're bringing a good point here with your explanation of outdoor vs indoor. I can see that! I might just get a cheapo 1-6 and I have my Romeo 5, that would cover everything... Thanks!
I had an expensive Leupold LPVO on the rifle I use at the ranch, which is a heavily wooded area. Very quickly I learned that any non-white target hiding or moving in the shadows would completely obscure the reticle making it impossible to aim properly. The truth is that in the real world, shots will likely never exceed 100 yds and more likely be around 25 yds or less.
I switched all my carbines to Sig or Holosun red dots that have auto off, shake awake and very long battery life so that I never need to turn stuff off or turn stuff on. Just pick up the rifle and it is ready to go and the dot is always visible no matter what.
