The fibre wire reticles are supposed to be as bright or brighter then red dot's if you need to see the red dot in extremely bright condiditons..... illumnated reticles have only been around for 20 years or so..... before that people just made due with the black reticles and inferior optics.
New to PCC, need advice on scope
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I've never had that issue. I hunt black bears in the evenings and never had issues seeing the reticle. Most of my lpvo have an illuminated 4a reticle which I find perfect. Higher grade glass also helps
My issue with red dots is the dot covers to much of the target. They're fine for fast shooting at larger targets but kinda suck for precise shooting
Every one has their preferences
People used to just make do with flintlocks
And bows and arrows.... I guess you missed my point? or rather points,People used to just make do with flintlocks
1) The problem you and others online have have complained about has been addressed with new tech.
2) It's not really a huge problem for most people and situtions.
I haven't noticed the "it's not daylight bright" problem that many talk of, but It's quite possible I just have not been in a bright enough enviroment with a dark enough target where I could not just use the black reticle..... as Brybenn points out, in low light, when targets are in dark spots and the reticle is hard to see, typical illumintated reticles work fine
You keep bringing the goods!
I've got to say that 1-8x24 for about $250 CAD shipped is hard to beat. There's a 1-6x24 for $55 less as well. I'm thinking 1-6 might be enough, I'll run it mostly from 1 to 4. Did you pay duty on it? Ya it's Chinese made but most budget scope are Chinese made so... I don't want to spend thousands anyways, first I don't have the money and second like many said a PCC does not need that. The Primary Arms is very nice but it's $650 all in plus the mount for a 1-6 and it's $500 for a prism dot. That saving buys me a 1000 rounds... I'm thinking about it very seriously! That would give me a "cheap" alternative to try a scope on the PCC... Thanks again, I owe you!
I don’t recall having to pay any duty - just the list price on website delivered to the door.
I did a quick search here and found some older posts from others who have the Discovery Lpvos - initial impressions seem good but not sure of any long term usage feedback. I just threw up a thread in the optics section to try gather some feedback from other users.
Being FFP, the reticle is quite fine at 1x, although it has an illuminated horseshoe reticle so should be good for quickish acquisition. Holdovers are non-illuminated, which as Can-Down mentioned is also preferable for me - can get a bit distracting if whole reticle is illuminated..
Could pick up the discovery 1-6 lpvo and 1,000 rounds for cheaper than the primary arms lpvo.
Shooting those 1,000 rounds would be a good way to get to know your rifle, its limitations, and how an lpvo would work (or not) for you. You already have the Romeo red dot so can give that a whirl too.
After those 1,000 rounds, reassess, sell/change/keep the optic setup, and buy another 1,000 rounds!
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I like your approach and advices to this, thank you for keeping me in the line of good sense. I actually just bought my first 1000 rounds this morning and I used the website you recommended me.
Good call on the Discovery reach out post, I'll go check it out. And I agree with you as well, better off with more rounds and cheaper optics until I find what I really like best. But I'll wait to see what others or saying with your post until I pull the trigger just in case.
Thanks again!
What I like about the Primary Arms SLx 1-6x24mm is it kinda cover both a red dot that is wired so it's plenty red in day light and magnification. It seems to me that a red dot not being bright enough on a sunny day has been fixed with technology.
Yes I hear you, you can definitely go down and it gets expensive. I'd like to get a rifle but everything I like is banned. I'm just thinking ahead because I gave a feeling things will get even more expensive pretty soon. Cheers
Yes as I tried to tell you, they sold out quickly and now there is no stock.... I don't remember many if any other shops even getting them when Marstar had them a while back... and sold out. Now that they are sold out there is apparently no stock for sale.....
Maybe give them a call or an email and ask if they excpect any soon? That's what I would do if I were you.
Good luck
Yes as I tried to tell you, they sold out quickly and now there is no stock.... I don't remember many if any other shops even getting them when Marstar had them a while back... and sold out. Now that they are sold out there is apparently no stock for sale.....
Maybe give them a call or an email and ask if they excpect any soon? That's what I would do if I were you.
Good luck
Yeah might just have to pay more for it and buy it in the state's which sucks but w/e there aren't many options for people with a stigmatism available in green.
OP, here's an inexpensive fibre dot LPVO I had not seen before, the reticle is a bit different and not my first choice but if you want the "daylight bright" thing for less then a couple hundred bucks it might be worth a try?
https://vector2007.com/collections/new-arrival/products/704-tactical-s6-1-6x24i-fiber-lpvo
It only has a one year warranty though, I'd be tempted to increase the budget and get the $500 model with a nicer reticle and a lifetime warranty.
https://vector2007.com/collections/...continental-1-6x24i-fiber-tactical-riflescope
https://vector2007.com/collections/new-arrival/products/704-tactical-s6-1-6x24i-fiber-lpvo
It only has a one year warranty though, I'd be tempted to increase the budget and get the $500 model with a nicer reticle and a lifetime warranty.
https://vector2007.com/collections/...continental-1-6x24i-fiber-tactical-riflescope
It's surprising that Aimpoint, despite the premium price and long history as an originator, only offers pros a 2 year warranty and amatuers get 10 years... non transferable.
There are some pretty nice optics available today used that come with a no nonsense lifetime warranty, makes buying or selling easier in my opinion.
Companies like Vector that I linked to above that are not well established might not be a safe bet for warranty 10 years from now, but I don't see companies like Primary Arms or Vortex going away anytime soon.
I have a feeling that a lot of people are reading about this this thread because everything PA discussed here was available last week and sold out over the weekend. Both the red dot and the LPVO. Maybe it's a coincidence but anyways, interesting!Yes as I tried to tell you, they sold out quickly and now there is no stock.... I don't remember many if any other shops even getting them when Marstar had them a while back... and sold out. Now that they are sold out there is apparently no stock for sale.....
Maybe give them a call or an email and ask if they excpect any soon? That's what I would do if I were you.
Good luck
Thank you for the suggestion, I'll look into it! Cheers
I agree! Aimpoint are nice but so expensive though... For me anyway. PA and Vortex are more in my reach
for what it's worth, I have a red dot on my PCC, and a LPVO on my type81, specifically the primary arms nova. the nova is great as it gives you the flexibility of more magnification and you still get red dot bright. and because of the bright illumination you dont have to be directly behind the scope to use it. the PCC has a red dot for weight savings, but honestly, I could use the lpvo and get the same results.
