Norinco 5.56... To Buy or Not to Buy?

With the way the thing are down south with anything AR-15 related, including 223/5.56, Norinco may be the only thing you will be able to get for a while.
 
So, I have been having issues with my LAR mags not feeding properly... See new thread in this forum...

I loaded 8 rds of the Norc ammo in a mags and tried running it through by working the action and NOT firing. The rounds were getting hung up AND the copper was being pushed into the brass about halfway. Did this to about 15 out of 20 rds. I would post a pic, but as I am doing this on my phone, I have no idea how... Anyways, the Fed ammo, would also get caught, but would NOT push the copper back.

Just a heads up. I am going to try and get out and shoot some sunday if my road ever gets plowed. I will post an update if I do/can.
 
In my very limited knowledge of the .223 vs 5.56 it has alot to do with your chamber accepting 5.56 pressure as well as .223 and your barrel twist. IIRC 1 in 7 twist will fire both .223 and 5.56 well however a 1 in 9 wil shoot .223 well but not 5.56.

It is extremely possible I am wrong, this is just what I have learned from a friend who purchased a tavor recently as it has a 1 in 7 twist and will shoot 5.56 well.

Please correct me as I am trying to learn.
 
nope, twist has nothing to do with it. it is 100% to do with chamber
a 5.56 chamber will handle both 5.56 and .223 safely. a .223 chamber might not handle 5.56 safely.

I wish they just did away with this BS and just make it one

In my very limited knowledge of the .223 vs 5.56 it has alot to do with your chamber accepting 5.56 pressure as well as .223 and your barrel twist. IIRC 1 in 7 twist will fire both .223 and 5.56 well however a 1 in 9 wil shoot .223 well but not 5.56.

It is extremely possible I am wrong, this is just what I have learned from a friend who purchased a tavor recently as it has a 1 in 7 twist and will shoot 5.56 well.

Please correct me as I am trying to learn.
 
In my very limited knowledge of the .223 vs 5.56 it has alot to do with your chamber accepting 5.56 pressure as well as .223 and your barrel twist. IIRC 1 in 7 twist will fire both .223 and 5.56 well however a 1 in 9 wil shoot .223 well but not 5.56.

It is extremely possible I am wrong, this is just what I have learned from a friend who purchased a tavor recently as it has a 1 in 7 twist and will shoot 5.56 well.

Please correct me as I am trying to learn.

5.56 chambers have a longer leade. The cartridges are loaded to a longer Cartridge Overall Length (COAL). Putting 5.56 cartridge in a .223 chamber will cause crush up and could cause a breach explosion. There are some copies of the AR that have a .223 chamber. There are others with a 5.56 chamber marked .223 to avoid export restrictions.

http://www.saami.org/specifications...1-Unsafe_Arms_and_Ammunition_Combinations.pdf


"The .223 Remington is rated for a maximum of 50,000 CUP while the 5.56mm is rated for 60,000 CUP. That extra 10,000 CUP is likely sufficient to cause a failure in a chamber that's only rated for the "sporting" .223 Remington." SAAMI
 
My DPMS AR barrel as no marking on it but is 5,56mm. As C77 said they don't put 5,56mm on the barrel to avoid export restrictions.

Since I want to buy a Remington 700P LTR .223, im gonna stick with the AE .223 ammo, Rem 700P chamber is not 5,56mm, it's really .223. So no Norinco 5,56 ammo for me :-(

Meh
 
the stupid thing is the yellow boxes are marked .223

I see some liability problems when someone blows up their gun with a .223 chamber
 
Ugh. Ae shoots like crap. Why waste it in a bolt action? Also bolt action receivers and chambers are much more stout. Probsbly csn get away with 5.56 in 223. Ae in my bolt action was garbage compared wuth white box win

My DPMS AR barrel as no marking on it but is 5,56mm. As C77 said they don't put 5,56mm on the barrel to avoid export restrictions.

Since I want to buy a Remington 700P LTR .223, im gonna stick with the AE .223 ammo, Rem 700P chamber is not 5,56mm, it's really .223. So no Norinco 5,56 ammo for me :-(

Meh
 
Things Military in Calgary had a sale the past few days, $450 for a box (same price as CanAm). I got the 4th last crate

Also, you can fit 15 bricks of .22 with enough room for a layer of 50 round boxes of .22 shorts on top inside the wood crates it's shipped in.

5 crates also make an excellent chair and gun safe weight.
 
Ugh. Ae shoots like crap. Why waste it in a bolt action? Also bolt action receivers and chambers are much more stout. Probsbly csn get away with 5.56 in 223. Ae in my bolt action was garbage compared wuth white box win

Well, they specifically said not to interchange these calibers on the Remington website, FAQ section. The gun won't blow up in my face but micro fractures can appear over time. That is bad, my #### will really fall off, lol.

I will use match ammo for accuracy test and competition for sure, AE will only be for plinking.
 
What ever you do make sure you dont get ripped, there are some out there probably buying it out from canada ammo and selling it at inflated prices. I just saw the 1600 rounds of Norc .223 at target sports for $599! when canadaammo is selling right now for $429, feeding off of the ill informed. Makes me angry.
 
What ever you do make sure you dont get ripped, there are some out there probably buying it out from canada ammo and selling it at inflated prices. I just saw the 1600 rounds of Norc .223 at target sports for $599! when canadaammo is selling right now for $429, feeding off of the ill informed. Makes me angry.

serious? some dealers have it for $399!
 
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