OK boys, talk me into a Savage

track said:
If you were gifted a Savage and a Cooper rifle but had only one choice, which one would you choose?
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Hard as it may be to believe, if for some reason i was not allowed to sell them after i would choose the savage. I have reasons that make pretty good sense to me, might to others as well.

1- Ease of changing barrels and cost of extra barrels, if i want to easy to change to a different cartridge.

2- The cost and availability of parts should something go wrong is much cheaper and better, If a bad fall or something did break something could fix it easier and quicker.

3- In northern alberta the terrain hunted can be pretty extreme, if the finish were to get damaged i wouldn't feel as bad about it.

4- I would rather hunt, then sit back admiring my rifle, see reason number 3 again

To each their own if you want to spend beaucoup dollars on a fancy gun thats your perogitive, but every savage i have owned has shot as well as any rifle i have put it beside so far, even a h.s precision.

I would prefer to spend some on the rest of my gear as well.
 
MadDog said:
Ya, Savages have no reason to be anywhere close to being listed as "Fine Rifles". If I wouldn't look so prejudiced I would have locked this thread when it started going south pages ago when the name calling started.

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The Model 99 is classified as a "classic" rifle but not a fine rifle. This photo of the model 99 has been bastarized from a custom engraver, not manufactured by Savage. Moreover, I believe that the debate was directed towards today's Savage bolt action rifles.
I believe that there are gun owners who are passonate about fine firearms and find no merit to invest and hunt with a utilitarian firearm.
 
sedgr said:
Personally MadDog I'd say go ahead and lock it, this arguments been circling the drain for awhile.
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Naw, I'll let it run for awhile, it's kind of teettering on the edge of redeeming itself.

As a hunter and a collector I've got Savage 110's that go hunting with me and I've got a couple of other Savages that have never seen the light of day so I can see alot of point of views here. Some aren't that well made and some are.
 
track said:
The Model 99 is classified as a "classic" rifle but not a fine rifle. This photo of the model 99 has been bastarized from a custom engraver, not manufactured by Savage. Moreover, I believe that the debate was directed towards today's Savage bolt action rifles.
I believe that there are gun owners who are passonate about fine firearms and find no merit to invest and hunt with a utilitarian firearm.
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That's probably the only Savage I wouldn't bother putting in the safe.
 
KDX said:
That's probably the only Savage I wouldn't bother putting in the safe.
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I'm sort of at the same opinion. For me, any lever gun doesn't 'look' right unless it has an exposed hammer. I've had a pair of Winchester 88's, one in 243 and the other in 308 and one Savage 99 in 30-30. For the reason I've just mentioned, they weren't around long before I;)put them up for adoption:p.
 
sedgr said:
Some people look at a Savage, and go "How can they be so cheap!?" and decide its because they're badly made or full of shoddy components. After all, there has to be an explanation or they would be a lot more expensive. Then another person comes along and shoots one and goes "How can they be so cheap!?" and are amazed at the accuracy and value per dollar.

Some people buy an expensive hand made mechanical watch, because they want to buy into the prestige. They want people to notice it and ask about it and where they got it from. They'll be ready to tell them about its quality components crafted from nearly unobtainable materials from parts unknown. They'll talk about the meticulous engineering and special movement, and with a wink and a nudge they'll talk about just how much it cost them.

Then other people buy a digital watch, because they want to tell time.

Savages are the digital watch of the gun world. Reliable, accurate, and cheap. No frills, but also no prestige in owning one other than knowing you got a good deal. Its the everyman gun.

Of course if prestige is what you were after, wanting to show people you aren't just an everyman gun owner, you never would have looked at one in the first place.
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^ x 2. Well said. I haven't read every post in this long thread, but most of them. Lots of guns have come and gone in the years I've been shooting, but the Savages have stayed. (Save for an HMR, didn't have a use for the caliber) I just bought my first varmint gun late last summer, and chose a Precision 10 in .223. I had the scope zeroed in less than 10 shots, and was getting 1" groups easily at 100 yards with factory ammo. (Hornady 55gr. V-max) I'm not a paper target guy, but plan on printing some paper this spring for the naysayers that pop-up on CGN. :) Anyhow, while I try not to actually say I "love" any gun, that word would come pretty close to how I feel about this one. In the very limited amount of groundhog time I had left in the season by the time I got this, it did an astounding job at long-range shots on these varmints. So yes...reliable, accurate, all business guns that do what they're meant to do for hunters/shooters who place those values above all else. Makes perfect sense to me.

The apple of my eye.. :)

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crazydave said:
Hard as it may be to believe, if for some reason i was not allowed to sell them after i would choose the savage. I have reasons that make pretty good sense to me, might to others as well.

1- Ease of changing barrels and cost of extra barrels, if i want to easy to change to a different cartridge.

2- The cost and availability of parts should something go wrong is much cheaper and better, If a bad fall or something did break something could fix it easier and quicker.

3- In northern alberta the terrain hunted can be pretty extreme, if the finish were to get damaged i wouldn't feel as bad about it.

4- I would rather hunt, then sit back admiring my rifle, see reason number 3 again

To each their own if you want to spend beaucoup dollars on a fancy gun thats your perogitive, but every savage i have owned has shot as well as any rifle i have put it beside so far, even a h.s precision.

I would prefer to spend some on the rest of my gear as well.
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Enough Said :cool:
 
I wont convince you, after owning a Model 99, 10, 12, 116 I got rid of them all. I dont like the bolt, feel, balance, look, trigger etc. They dont turn my crank. No more for me. :nest:
 
Sighted in my the latest today. I picked up an Axis XP in .223 at WSS on boxing day. On paper with the high, went wide left and still a bit high next, then overcompensated and went wide right at the same height, then dialed it down and over a bit more and shot a three shot group as I figured that would be pretty close to on target.

100 meters, rested in my hand off the rail of my deck. Bog standard Winchester Whitebox 55gr. factory ammo. Standard package 3-9 scope that came on it.

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Not too bad.

Of course the size of that target is a little deceptive.

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Three shots sitting under a dime.
Under $300 and they gave me a $25 cash card.
 
sedgr said:
Sighted in my the latest today. I picked up an Axis XP in .223 at WSS on boxing day. On paper with the high, went wide left and still a bit high next, then overcompensated and went wide right at the same height, then dialed it down and over a bit more and shot a three shot group as I figured that would be pretty close to on target.

100 meters, rested in my hand off the rail of my deck. Bog standard Winchester Whitebox 55gr. factory ammo. Standard package 3-9 scope that came on it.



Three shots sitting under a dime.
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My 2 Savage Axis .223's did the same....bought 150 rounds of the White Box 55 grain. Sold them as well...you know.


The whitebox will serve as great brass for my .223 Kimber.
 
bearkilr said:
:confused: Who or what the f**k is "stick" ?

and is it too hard to spell "laughin"? It has one more letter for God's sake. Damn kids these days.
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You don't want to know who 'stick is :D . He'd ride you hard and throw you in the barn dazed, wet and confused....

"Laffin" is one of his claims to fame.
 
MadDog said:
Ya, Savages have no reason to be anywhere close to being listed as "Fine Rifles". If I wouldn't look so prejudiced I would have locked this thread when it started going south pages ago when the name calling started.

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The only Savages I like are 99's, and with that said, there were a few custom makers who worked with them right alongside $5,000 Mauser actions, such as Empire Rifles. I'm not much of a budget rifle guy, I like guns I'll be proud to give my kids in thirty years, and a 99 certainly qualifies.
 
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