Old Time Grizzly Guns

[carverk]

The difference is when a dog "loses it" you get a bite in the calf (ask me how I know)... when a bear loses it, you get your face ripped off... I remember a dude that was pretty comfortable with bears, even lived with them and introduced his girlfriend to them...

Your talking about a city bleeding heart that was going in the wilderness to teach how us how to live with dears big difference
We had a nother city guy making documentary of the Spirit bear that disappeared up by the seven sisters in kitwanga it away a city guys getting in trouble
I alway pack a rifle most times it just a 22 so I can pick up sum food along the way and in a pinch as self defense

 

[hoytcanon]

Your talking about a city bleeding heart that was going in the wilderness to teach how us how to live with dears big difference
We had a nother city guy making documentary of the Spirit bear that disappeared up by the seven sisters in kitwanga
I alway pack a rifle most times it a 22 so I can pick up sum food along the way and in a pinch as self defense

I am the last one to preach a fear mongering message regarding bears... but I do believe in respect.

 

[carverk]

I am the last one to preach a fear mongering message regarding bears... but I do believe in respect.

Me too if I don't need to be in there space I keep plenty of room between me and them
And I don't blame sumone that packs a big ass elephant gun either it's a mater of Comfort all hunting is like that I don't take 300+ yards shots but I know guys that are quite good at it but that's not me I admire ther shooting skills
I have to get right up to my target as I know 100 % under a 100 yard I'm making a one shot kill

I will be doing sum Mountain hunting next year and have to spend this spring and summer pushing my Comfort zon and expanding my range this is wear skill set is week

 

[medvedqc]

Carverk, what is for you a big ass elephant gun?

 

[carverk]

Carverk, what is for you a big ass elephant gun?

375 H&H extra I realy want shoot one on the gun rang mind you looks like fun
I have Seen guys packing 338 lapua that is a elephant gun to me it a lot of gun for the North
But I bet the guy shooting it had fun and put meat in the freezer and that's what's important not the calber or rifle
At the same time a guy packing a ligh small calber or weaker calaber rifle like a 30-30 better be willing to get well under 50 yards and make that perfect shoot because you're not gonna get a second chance

 

[Boomer]

For northern hunters in remote areas, reloading is no option, whatsoever, in my opinion. That is why they like very common calibres of rifles, that they can get the ammunition for at any area store.

Recreational shooters certainly benefit more from handloading than a subsistence hunter would, but that said, anyone with access to factory ammo, and the desire to role his own, can acquire components. I do.

 

[DVXDUDE]

I can remember being at my uncles when I was about 10 years old looking at the big buck he got that year.

I asked what he shot it with. He proceeded to tell me how he stalked this buck while it was drinking water at a lake. He snuck right up to the buck and kicked him square in the nuts making him choke on the water and he died right there. My uncle was a great story teller and being the gullible young kid I was, I believed ever word. I bet I told like 25 people that story thinking it was true. Most people probably didn't know if I was joking or telling the truth.

This thread made me think about it and thought I'd share lol

 

[H4831]

Recreational shooters certainly benefit more from handloading than a subsistence hunter would, but that said, anyone with access to factory ammo, and the desire to role his own, can acquire components. I do.

I guess I should have added a few more words to my quote, for you people who were not around at the time I was thinking of when I said, "For northern hunters in remote areas." The time era of the northern meat hunters of Canada centred on pre WW2 days, but ran into the 1950s in some remote areas, especially in British Columbia.
Those people, regardless of their nationality, color or background, had mostly never heard of reloading and would have no part of it, even if they had heard about it.

 

[kamlooky]

Recreational shooters certainly benefit more from handloading than a subsistence hunter would, but that said, anyone with access to factory ammo, and the desire to role his own, can acquire components. I do.

Haha Boomer..............yewse izz lern'in..........awlbee-it mitey slow..............................

 

[carverk]

I know one hunter that reloaded from Prince Rupert but that is it
I wish we had access to powder and Components For reloading
I have considerable amount of money invested in reloading equipment that sits on a shelf collecting dust
The one guy that reloads is going to show me in the Spring wen he gets back to canada and I'm off for brake up
But that's not going to make it any easier getting powder extra but hopefully it will allow me to put more time in at the gun range shooting getting ready for mounten hunting in the fall

 

[hoytcanon]

Haha Boomer..............yewse izz lern'in..........awlbee-it mitey slow..............................

One typo does not a Kamlooky make...

 

[Gatehouse]

I know one hunter that reloaded from Prince Rupert but that is it
I wish we had access to powder and Components For reloading
I have considerable amount of money invested in reloading equipment that sits on a shelf collecting dust
The one guy that reloads is going to show me in the Spring wen he gets back to canada and I'm off for brake up
But that's not going to make it any easier getting powder extra but hopefully it will allow me to put more time in at the gun range shooting getting ready for mounten hunting in the fall

If you were to reload for yourself, what cartridges would you load for ? And for what firearms?

 

[bat119]

A peashooter will work

Bella Twin, an Indian girl, and her friend Dave Auger were hunting grouse near Lesser Slave Lake in northern Alberta. The only gun they had was Bella’s single-shot bolt-action .22 Rimfire rifle. They were walking a cutline that had been made for oil exploration when they saw a large grizzly following the same survey line toward them. If they ran, the bear would probably notice them and might chase, so they quietly sat down on a brush pile and hoped that the bear would pass by without trouble. But the bear came much too close, and when the big boar was only a few yards away, Bella Twin shot him in the side of the head with a .22 Long cartridge. The bear dropped, kicked and then lay still. Taking no chances, Bella went up close and fired all of the cartridges she had, seven or eight .22 Longs, into the bear’s head. That bear, killed in 1953, was the world-record grizzly for several years and is still high in the records today.

Read more: http://www.ammoland.com/2014/11/wha...a-world-record-grizzly-in-1953/#ixzz4SBfKjWWQ

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Bella with her peashooter

 

[98ssuck]

I know one hunter that reloaded from Prince Rupert but that is it
I wish we had access to powder and Components For reloading
I have considerable amount of money invested in reloading equipment that sits on a shelf collecting dust
The one guy that reloads is going to show me in the Spring wen he gets back to canada and I'm off for brake up
But that's not going to make it any easier getting powder extra but hopefully it will allow me to put more time in at the gun range shooting getting ready for mounten hunting in the fall

I know lots of people in prince Rupert that reload. The lgs is very good. Always has a good supply of powder. If you need help pm me when you are in town.

 

[carverk]

If you were to reload for yourself, what cartridges would you load for ? And for what firearms?

I use T/C ProHunter the most with 15" barrels 308,223,12gage
I have several ranch hands converted to carbines in 44 mag/44 special and 357mag/38 special
I have gotten to the pont wear any thing with a barrel longer then 16 or 18 inches feels cumbersome and awkward in the bush with one exception my Winchester low wall 6.5x55 unfortunately finding ammo is a headache or I would use that rifle all the time by fare one of the handyis rifles I have ever packed
Miscellaneous 22lr and 22mags

I have other including a HS Percision in 7mm RM don't think it will get used much as it is realy long rifle can't see taking it out much hunting I like the caliber but with fast flat shooting rifle need long barrels and I have develop a hate for long heavy rifles ( not that the HS Percision is heavy but it's long )
I have others that I don't use much such as SKS but I don't consider them as hunting rifles but thay work in a pinch

 

[MiG25]

You likely need 3 powders.

The 223 and 308 can use the same
6.5 and 7mm need another for best results
44 and 357 need another

Loading for the 6.5 would be my priority. Get your feet wet with that one.

Basic reloading is easy.

 

[chasseur]

Like they say sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you

 

[carverk]

A peashooter will work

Bella Twin, an Indian girl, and her friend Dave Auger were hunting grouse near Lesser Slave Lake in northern Alberta. The only gun they had was Bella’s single-shot bolt-action .22 Rimfire rifle. They were walking a cutline that had been made for oil exploration when they saw a large grizzly following the same survey line toward them. If they ran, the bear would probably notice them and might chase, so they quietly sat down on a brush pile and hoped that the bear would pass by without trouble. But the bear came much too close, and when the big boar was only a few yards away, Bella Twin shot him in the side of the head with a .22 Long cartridge. The bear dropped, kicked and then lay still. Taking no chances, Bella went up close and fired all of the cartridges she had, seven or eight .22 Longs, into the bear’s head. That bear, killed in 1953, was the world-record grizzly for several years and is still high in the records today.

Read more: http://www.ammoland.com/2014/11/wha...a-world-record-grizzly-in-1953/#ixzz4SBfKjWWQ

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Bella with her peashooter

This is the real question how close are you willing to get to a big Grizly bear befor you pull the trigger
Traditional archery Hunters are close rang specialist And vary good at what thay do many hunters can learn from these guys thay are the real hunters in my eyes

 

[carverk]

I know lots of people in prince Rupert that reload. The lgs is very good. Always has a good supply of powder. If you need help pm me when you are in town.

I will take you up on that wen I get back from camp in the Spring thank you 98ssuck just getting ready to head to Alberta pipelining I know it's a dirty word up in this part of the Country but the bills have to get payed one way or a nother lol

 

[Gatehouse]

You likely need 3 powders.

The 223 and 308 can use the same
6.5 and 7mm need another for best results
44 and 357 need another

Loading for the 6.5 would be my priority. Get your feet wet with that one.

Basic reloading is easy.

That's what I was getting at. Probably only need 3 powders, get a jug of each, a bunch of primers and you are good for a long time. Bullets and brass can be mailed for the same price as anything else as they aren't HAZMAT. Forget about loading for the shotgun. It's not really worth getting set up to do that, but metallic cartridges are easy.