You must be one of those types who have alot of NDs eh?
Insulting and uncalled for.
And inaccurate. Over 100k rounds served in my life, and not an ND yet. Not that I'd expect you to know me or anything...but it's a hell of an assumption and insult to just insult someone with.
Smellie. I guess there's no problem having a finger on the trigger at anytime then. It's perfectly safe handling. If everyone does it at anytime I guess there'll NEVER be an accident at anytime no way no how!
Is that what I said? Or Smellie said?
NO.
I did NOT say “at any time”. I did NOT say “NEVER BE AN ACCIDENT”.
I did say that there's nothing in those pictures that actually shows anything unsafe occurring.
I am amazed this conversation has gone past: "Yep those guys sure have their fingers on the triggers of those guns, that is a possibly dangerous situation and it's bad form to be having your picture taken like that, but I am sure that they were proved safe before that and nothing serious happened."
To: "WELL I WAS A SOLDIER AND I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT GUNS AND WE HAD OUR FINGERS ON THE TRIGGER ALL THE TIME IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR FINGER ON THE TRIGGER YOU HATE GUNS AND FREEDOM."
“possibly dangerous”?
“on the trigger all the time”?
No. Just like with the pictures, you are leaping to an incorrect conclusion. You assumed.
The problem is that these men are posing with the rifles with their fingers on the trigger which shows a cavalier attitude towards gun safety,
Posing?
Really? Are these underwear models, setting up for the pro photographer?
Frankly I think the attention of these young soldiers is much more on the firearms they are handling, and could care less about any photographs being taken. And if it was so dangerous, why didn't the photographer run out of the buildings screaming at the top of his lungs?
They had something to do, and I'll do something you are unwilling to: because I wasn't there, I'll give them the benefit of doubt, that they were handling them safely. I literally don't see a single thing “cavalier” about their handling.
But let me ask you this: say the firearm WAS loaded, and he was handling it poorly...when he notices that someone's about to take his picture, do you expect him to rush up and tell him “GIMME YOUR CAMERA! YOU CAN'T POST A PICTURE OF ME ON TEH INTERNETS!!1!” while this loaded gun is being waved all about?
Thanks for the articles LI.
Not taking shots at soldiers ... Have just seen a lot mishandling and alot of instances where blanks have proven their worth.
Doesn't matter who carrry's a firearm, let it be a Soldier, Police Officer or Civilian, safe weapons handling is a must. Especially when the people are 'new' to firearms, as like I've already said bad habits die hard and thank god that there's not more accidents where people get hurt. It's one thing to have an accidental discharge but is more relieving when no one is in the bullets path, but then again that's just luck. I recently had a family member accidentally shot and they almost died so when I see mishandling it makes me speak up.
And while I'm sorry for your family member's accident, does that give you permission to insult me? Or to assume there's something unsafe going on in those pictures?
Would be really interested to read the police report.

Kinda like all those NDs in the field ... 'no sarg it just went off on it's own'.

Then after a function check and an inspection by the weapons tech proves that it didn't. Seen this every time someone says that it was a weapons malfunction. But who knows for sure, it does happen, gotta check. But never actually seen a 'malfunction'
I have a 22 bolt action. #### it, put the safety on pull the trigger, nothing. Take the safety off and put it back on and 'click'.

needless to say I don't shoot that one much.
So after all this lecturing, putdowns, inaccurate assessments of what us Army guys are saying, you inform us that you knowingly own a firearm with a broken safety system!? Isn't your failure to get that fixed a perfect example of a “cavalier attitude toward gun safety”?
If you want to say that actually deliberately posing with your finger on the trigger is causing new shooters to have a cavalier attitude towards safe firearms handling...I would direct you to millions of TV episodes, action movies, gangsta rap videos, Youtube videos showing questionable and downright dangerous handling...and ask why people are freaking out about a picture showing someone safely dry-firing?
Look, if the website owners don't want pictures of people with fingers on the trigger, that's ok, it's their site, this is what they want, and that's that. But don't assume/accuse that I or the soldiers in the pictures are ACTUALLY being unsafe.