Shadow 2 REVIEW, unpacking, initial thoughts (very pic heavy)

nylons or panties over over a vacuum make a handy parts finder (among other things...)
Yes the sights from a Shadow will fit on the 2, however, the front sight is a 7.5mm tall vs a 5.5mm on a Shadow. If you went to fixed rear and front you could probably use the same ones.

Total tear down and re-assembly of a Shadow/2 should take maybe 10 minutes, max, and that's with a piss break in there too. They are pretty simple guns to work on. Curious as to why you're changing the trigger spring?
 
Slavex said:
nylons or panties over over a vacuum make a handy parts finder (among other things...)
Yes the sights from a Shadow will fit on the 2, however, the front sight is a 7.5mm tall vs a 5.5mm on a Shadow. If you went to fixed rear and front you could probably use the same ones.

Total tear down and re-assembly of a Shadow/2 should take maybe 10 minutes, max, and that's with a piss break in there too. They are pretty simple guns to work on. Curious as to why you're changing the trigger spring?
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A good strong magnet is great, but once again I learn from the master. Next time I'm on a date, I'll drop a few springs on the ground ....
 
Trinimon said:
This would be my Shadow 2. Full strip minus mag release and extractor on the slide for polishing up contact points and changing out hammer, trigger and sear springs. Always a nervous thing the first time with a new gun but I've done it a few times already so it's pretty quick to reassemble.

lol, I'll be out of a job in a couple weeks, I would have done it for free just to keep myself busy. :p

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Any tips on knocking out the pins that secure the mainspring strut and disconnector onto the hammer? I've been banging away to no avail.
 
lol, hard to find sheer panties or nylons when you're a single guy... not that I'm judging what others may do in the confort of their home. :p

For sh!z & giggles, I added the -10% trigger spring to my cart while ordering some reduced power main, firing pin and recoil springs to see if it would help bring down the trigger pull weight even more. Didn't make a difference. Felt the same and the trigger pull weight scale said the same. Wasted $5. lol

Protege said:
Any tips on knocking out the pins that secure the mainspring strut and disconnector onto the hammer? I've been banging away to no avail.
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Those pins are staked. You'll need a taper punch, heavier hammer and a good support like a block, hockey puck etc. I didn't think it was worth disassembling that part. I did remove the rough sides of the strut and polished it smooth.
 
Canuck44 said:
LOL Some where in my gun room is a spring from the left hand safety. Gun God is the only person I know who has any idea where the darn thing flew to.

Take Care

Bob
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Yes, that left detent spring holding the safety in place just pops right out once the sear cage is removed. I too have only ever had this happen with the Shadow 2, never my other CZ's. Luckily, it did not fly into the yonder!
 
Trinimon said:
Those pins are staked. You'll need a taper punch, heavier hammer and a good support like a block, hockey puck etc. I didn't think it was worth disassembling that part. I did remove the rough sides of the strut and polished it smooth.
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I've got everything except a bigger hammer and a taper punch. However, I don't see a big difference between a pin punch vs a taper punch. But I'll order one just in case.
 
because the pins are staked so heavily, a regular pin punch will often bend during the course of hammering them out. A starter punch has more meat to it and won't bend and will allow you to break the pins free and use your pin punch to get them the rest of the way out.
If you don't have a bench block with the hammer cut out (CZ Custom sells them and they are awesome) simply use a scrap piece of wood and drive the pins into the wood by laying the hammer level on the wood. easy peasy. If you are swapping to a new hammer, once the pins are part way out, line the new hammer up and tap it onto the pins, then drive them further in, releasing the strut and disco, place in new hammer after polishing and continue to hammer the pins through. I do not restake them. It's not needed in my opinion. Staking is to prevent them from falling out during disassembly and is a carry over from the old military requirements.
 
Is the length of pull for the DA shot any shorter on the 2? I'd really like to get a Shadow as I've loved the ones I've tried, except for how my stubby fingers fit the trigger in DA.
 
Slavex said:
because the pins are staked so heavily, a regular pin punch will often bend during the course of hammering them out. A starter punch has more meat to it and won't bend and will allow you to break the pins free and use your pin punch to get them the rest of the way out.
If you don't have a bench block with the hammer cut out (CZ Custom sells them and they are awesome) simply use a scrap piece of wood and drive the pins into the wood by laying the hammer level on the wood. easy peasy. If you are swapping to a new hammer, once the pins are part way out, line the new hammer up and tap it onto the pins, then drive them further in, releasing the strut and disco, place in new hammer after polishing and continue to hammer the pins through. I do not restake them. It's not needed in my opinion. Staking is to prevent them from falling out during disassembly and is a carry over from the old military requirements.
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Ok thanks. I'll get me a taper punch and see how it goes.
 
Everyone still loving the Shadow 2?

I was looking for some spring clarification. To stay legal for IPSC production, are a CZ 13lb main and 11lb recoil as low as you can go for spring weight? I've been browsing select shooting supplies website. With 13/11 is a reduced power firing Spring needed? I will be shooting a few thousand rounds of Blazer 124 and collecting brass for awhile.
 
Still luv'n my S2. To stay IPSC production legal, you need to use CZ parts designed for the model pistol. I think CZ offers a 11.5lb mainspring as well. If you're shooting factory ammo, I'd probably stick to a 13lb recoil spring. I think factory stock is 16lbs. That said, I know a couple shooters who have shot several hundreds of rounds using an 11lb recoil with factory ammo without any issues so far. Doesn't hurt to have a spare slide release in your save-a-day kit.

I've shot my S2 with a 13lb mainspring and factory firing pin spring on CCI/S&B etc primers with zero failures. If you go below 13lb, you may want that reduced power FP spring. I saw no need for an extended firing pin.
 
Trinimon said:
Still luv'n my S2. To stay IPSC production legal, you need to use CZ parts designed for the model pistol. I think CZ offers a 11.5lb mainspring as well. If you're shooting factory ammo, I'd probably stick to a 13lb recoil spring. I think factory stock is 16lbs. That said, I know a couple shooters who have shot several hundreds of rounds using an 11lb recoil with factory ammo without any issues so far. Doesn't hurt to have a spare slide release in your save-a-day kit.

I've shot my S2 with a 13lb mainspring and factory firing pin spring on CCI/S&B etc primers with zero failures. If you go below 13lb, you may want that reduced power FP spring. I saw no need for an extended firing pin.
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Appreciate the feedback, thanks!
 
on the other hand, I know several IPSC shooters who tried the Shadow2 in competition and , after a couple of matches, sold it in favor of a normal Shadow SP-01........what about myself - Shadow "1" is forever.....
 
pilgrim said:
on the other hand, I know several IPSC shooters who tried the Shadow2 in competition and , after a couple of matches, sold it in favor of a normal Shadow SP-01........what about myself - Shadow "1" is forever.....
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I know alot of IPSC shooters and don't know anyone that went back to the SP-01 after buying a Shadow 2, I know some that tried one prior to buying and decided not to upgrade. I'll offer my opinion since I recently sold both of my Shadow 2's as I'm moving to Standard Division. I much prefer the checkering on the Shadow 2 and the shape and feel of the grip as well, I do prefer the sights on my Original Shadow now that I swapped the 1.5mm front fiber to a 1.0 over the sights on the Shadow 2's. The end result for me as a B class shooter was pretty much zero difference in my results using either the Shadow or Shadow 2. I switched back and forth in the USA until recently when the Shadow 2 became legal and at our last match I shot the original Shadow after a year of the Shadow 2's and had my best result of the season by a few percentage points.

As far as springs the only 11.5 Hammer spring I am aware of is a CGW and there is some folks ordering out of Europe for 10 and 11 lb springs. Both of my Shadow 2's were 100 % on all primers with the stock firing pin and fp spring as low as the 11.5 CGW spring beyond that (8.5 lb CGW) I would need to stick to Federal Primers only.
 
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