Shotgun forum split???

Shotgun forum

  • One forum for all shotguns

    Votes: 133 27.7%

  • One for tactical/action, one for sporting/hunting

    Votes: 348 72.3%
  • Total voters
    481
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Yes, but only because some members can't help but argue their same tired opinions about certain topics. We get it, you Don't like short\cheap\black\pistol grip etc. shotguns. Now #### off!
 
I don't expect this to turn into such a heated debate.

The rationale actually has nothing to do with trolling and all that stuff. We are generally separating the hunting dedicated firearms from the competition, solely because of the functional requirements and ease of browsing. It does not make too much sense for people who want to find a turkey gun to wade through a bunch of compeition stuff, while the 3 gun people do not necessarily want to wade though deer hunting to find their fix. We only think of doing it when the traffic volume warrants the split.
 
Well FWIW I have yet to see a tac-shotgun shooter pop into a thread about an expensive SxS and slag the members for their taste in guns. Guns are guns, the more people shooting the better.
 
lucky07 said:
one is more likely to have bitter judgmental pricks as part of it's following.
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Never bitter:D but have been called the other two on more than one occasion.;) I have no problem with tactical guns. I do have a problem with the lesser quality chinese knock off #### that is being marketed or flogged. That junk pinches and irritates my Fudd nerve right to the bone.
 
Some of you guys couldn't get along if there was only one brand of shotgun to discuss. How do you figure to get along by adding more shotgun forums.

A shotgun is a shotgun. I don't see a point for an added forum. At least not a division between tac and sport. Maybe production and high end shotguns, but not hunting and sporting.

What's next? Separate forum for Chinese shotguns? How about one for Remington's only? Maybe another for Trench shotguns? How about you just learn to get along like grown men instead.

I vote for a single shotgun forum.
 
lucky07 said:
.... 1. Anyone who fits into the category. If they do so be it ... if they don't good.

2. you DO care otherwise you wouldn't be retaliating (to the perceived insult) at all.

Sweet baby jesus ... NEVER have I said I wasn't insulting anyone (in general) ... I said I'm not insulting anyone specific (NO NAMES). If anyone wants to be insulted I'm sure they'll find a way so read the post so that it is.

If you walk into a room with 100 people in it and say "there are pricks etc. in this room" you are not insulting anyone but throwing it at everyone until an assessment is made (by them). You are making a general statement.
Now the guy that get's pissed off because you stated there was a (...) in the room is one that fits the description. Why would he get mad if he doesn't fit the profile???
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I think that there is someone on this thread, not mentiong names mind you, whose elevator does not go all the way to the top.
 
greentips said:
... It does not make too much sense for people who want to find a turkey gun to wade through a bunch of compeition stuff, ...
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They should then read the thread titles carefully and stay out of threads relating to competitive, or tactical shotguns.

Besides, what the Hunting and Sporting Arms forum exactly for?

Also, in your final decision, consider that a larger "quantity" of votes does not dictate the "quality" of less votes.
 
Why not have two separate forums under one shotgun header, in much the same way the recipes section in the hunting forum is set up. Shotgun header stays the same however when you click it it brings you to a forum separated into tactical/defense and sporting/competition guns.
 
One of the reasons I stay out of the shotgun forum for the most part, is the
bashing and name calling that takes place in the forum. As a relative newcomer to this site, I find that the arguing is as rediculous as arguing about who makes a better pickup truck(ie: Dodge vs. Ford vs. Chevy vs. Toyota)
At the end of the day WHO CARES? You buy what YOU want/need/like/can afford, not what some person sitting on the other side of a computer screen thinks. You don't care what kind of truck the guy driving by you on the highway is driving, so why would you care about what kind of shotguns another member of this site is interested in, or posting about?

As an individual who had no introduction to firearms, except for my own curiosity - These types of behaviour do nothing to help further the cause of private firearms ownership in Canada. Imagine if you signed up to this site because you had the sole interest in purchasing either a tactical type shotgun or a clay/skeet/hunting shotgun, you might easily become discouraged by some of the behaviour that I've witnessed.

I feel that splitting the Shotgun section up, as GT said, will increase the ease of searching, and may help to keep the ensuing posts on topic and factual.
 
I shoot trap/skeet with my tacticals (and backpacker) but Im all for the split if it will cut down on some of the elitism on this site of those with $4000 o/u that dont want to kill zombies as well
 
I have been accused of being a Troll on a lot of the Tactical threads. I don't hate Tactical Shotguns. A quality pump gun with a 14" barrel does have it's place. As a pack gun for self defence or just goofing around. What I do take offence to is a chopped down "pistol" grip 7/11 guns that are just an accident waiting to happen.
Or as per the Outlaw thread's, guy's bragging about letting off both barrels at the same time on a gun that couldn't hit the ground if you dropped it.
Then there are the 8 1/2" barrel guns that if someone doesn't blow a finger off when firing it I will be amazed. Not to mention the velocity lost with this type of barrel.
If you think some of us more experienced shooters, or fudd's as you seem to defensively call us when you can't find anything else to say. Are against you that is not the case. Maybe we are just trying to steer you in the right direction.
Shotgunning is a wonderful sport. Try hunting Pheasant on a Fall day with a great Dog. Or shooting Sporting Clay's on a Sunday afternoon with your bud's.
It is a learning curve and I hope by being a fudd and steering some of you in the right direction you can fully enjoy the sport.
 
Win/64 said:
Maybe we are just trying to steer you in the right direction.
Shotgunning is a wonderful sport. Try hunting Pheasant on a Fall day with a great Dog. Or shooting Sporting Clay's on a Sunday afternoon with your bud's.
It is a learning curve and I hope by being a fudd and steering some of you in the right direction you can fully enjoy the sport.
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And who are you to try and "steer" someone in the right direction? Especially after it's been stated and made obvious when someone doesn't want to be "steered". (not referring to any particular situation)

Give it a try sure ... but s**t, don't keep pushing after you're met with resistance. Not against a fellow gun owner anyways. Antis, politicians, orgs etc. sure ... but this infighting is killing us slowly.

There is no "RIGHT" direction. It's whatever the hell we want it to be for ourselves as individuals so long as it's done safely.

Can't argue the safety aspect as we all know what it is for us... the thing is to antis a safe gun is a shredded one, we don't need something to further divide us.

You sound like a damn liberal. "steering" mmmhm, that's just what their doing to us gun owners/hunters right .... "steering" us in the "right" direction.

Re-read what you wrote and give your head a shake man.
 
Win/64 said:
I always push harder when met with a Virgin. :)
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.... and in turn you can end up discouraging the said virgin and having them go to someone else who may have a different strategy :)

deets said:
I thought they were trying to steer us to the left.
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the left is the right side and the right side isn't the right lol. The left side to them isn't the right side that is left but the only side that is right.
 
Win/64 said:
I have been accused of being a Troll on a lot of the Tactical threads. I don't hate Tactical Shotguns. A quality pump gun with a 14" barrel does have it's place. As a pack gun for self defence or just goofing around. What I do take offence to is a chopped down "pistol" grip 7/11 guns that are just an accident waiting to happen.
Or as per the Outlaw thread's, guy's bragging about letting off both barrels at the same time on a gun that couldn't hit the ground if you dropped it.
Then there are the 8 1/2" barrel guns that if someone doesn't blow a finger off when firing it I will be amazed. Not to mention the velocity lost with this type of barrel.
If you think some of us more experienced shooters, or fudd's as you seem to defensively call us when you can't find anything else to say. Are against you that is not the case. Maybe we are just trying to steer you in the right direction.
Shotgunning is a wonderful sport. Try hunting Pheasant on a Fall day with a great Dog. Or shooting Sporting Clay's on a Sunday afternoon with your bud's.
It is a learning curve and I hope by being a fudd and steering some of you in the right direction you can fully enjoy the sport.
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This is part of the problem you come off as an elitist prick and you do not even realize it.Who are you to say that that a pistol griped gun or a short barrel is an accident waiting to happen,stop projecting your irrational fears on every body else.
You can bring your concerns up but do it more in the form of a qestion,not flat out say the poster is a moron or his gun is a pos.

As for spliting the forum I am not on any side,I will leave that up to GT and the members.The thing I wanted changed the most is the Oh So Macho under the forum header,it is better now.
 
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