SHTF Rifle - Ideas
- Thread starter Gin
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Kayser Sose
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Jeez I think that's the AR180
ChrisAlston
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- Calgary, Alberta
Tavor
Phat Eagle
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- Fraser Valley, BC
If it has to be non-restricted and .223 you are looking at a Tavor or XCR. The .223 858s seem to have a TON of reliability issues, so that would disqualify it in my books...
If you're not worried about restricted the AR is King!
If you're not worried about restricted the AR is King!
AR is king for sure. But there may come a time when AR's or restricted weapons in general are not available.
Also, the non-restricted status makes transportation and storage that much easier. I'm in an area where I can practice with a NR weapon without paying range fees.
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- Southern ontario
Type 97, takes ar mags, is reliable with normal usgi steel mags, chrome lined barrel excellet shtf gun and non restricted
The XCR looks like a great option. Only problem with it and the AR-180B are the price tags.
I'm thinking of a price cap somewhere around $1200 without optics or other high-end accessories.
I know that leaves options like the T-97, a CZ/VZ (whichever model is chambered for .223), or the SU-16.
There's no point to talk about norinco here. everyones just going to start arguing. Some people don't understand it's not their money and that no one cares how much you hate norinco or how awesome your tavor and hk is. I don't own a norc nor do I have plans to. I just think it's annoying how some people get all pissy about iit
AR platform hands down! SHTF who will care if it is restricted anyways. I have one SHTF gun it is an old school Olympic Arms with a 11.5" barrel. I know many people will say oh you need a gun that reaches out there but I can say anyone that moves around in daylight in open area will be out of the game quickly. Most survivors will stay under cover and most fights will be under 150 yards anyways most likely around 50 to 75 yards in urban or bush settings.
7.62? Well if you can only carry 200 rounds your expensive platform will be a poorly balanced club when you run out of ammo.
5.56 seems the best compromise for round count over power in closer encounters. Ever ask why use a noisey 5.56 round when you need to eat something like a rabbit instead of a .22 rimfire round. So I can easily carry 300 ronds of 5.56 and another 2000 rounds of .22 rimfire. Hmm any 300.00 rimfire conversion kits out here for non AR platforms, don't think so.
Is a .22 rimfire a stopper, not really but would you rather use your empty semi auto as a club or swap over to 26 rounds of Stingers with a conversion kit?
I will stay with my 20 year old Oly it always goes bang and groups very well and my CMMG .22 conversion kit just chugs along as well, at the end of the day it is all about choices and flexibility, as most decent rifles are already accurate and dependable. And forget about lasers, flashlights, red dots, as batteries run out....
Just practise with you irons and get a simple scope that works well.
If you choose a .22 as your SHTF gun get a SR 22 or 1022, here is my 10/22 with a 10" charger barrel and all that useless battery powered gizmos that would just come off when the batteries fail, at least I have a scope and great backup irons.
Just my .02 cents.
Randy
7.62? Well if you can only carry 200 rounds your expensive platform will be a poorly balanced club when you run out of ammo.
5.56 seems the best compromise for round count over power in closer encounters. Ever ask why use a noisey 5.56 round when you need to eat something like a rabbit instead of a .22 rimfire round. So I can easily carry 300 ronds of 5.56 and another 2000 rounds of .22 rimfire. Hmm any 300.00 rimfire conversion kits out here for non AR platforms, don't think so.
Is a .22 rimfire a stopper, not really but would you rather use your empty semi auto as a club or swap over to 26 rounds of Stingers with a conversion kit?
I will stay with my 20 year old Oly it always goes bang and groups very well and my CMMG .22 conversion kit just chugs along as well, at the end of the day it is all about choices and flexibility, as most decent rifles are already accurate and dependable. And forget about lasers, flashlights, red dots, as batteries run out....
Just practise with you irons and get a simple scope that works well.
If you choose a .22 as your SHTF gun get a SR 22 or 1022, here is my 10/22 with a 10" charger barrel and all that useless battery powered gizmos that would just come off when the batteries fail, at least I have a scope and great backup irons.
Just my .02 cents.
Randy
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