I agree. Cheap solution and I think that BCL expects everybody to be able to sort it out with loctite and some mechanical skills - which I know many do not have. Hence my remark that I expect more gas blocks to go bust.
SRV2 Siberian Reviews
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I agree. Cheap solution and I think that BCL expects everybody to be able to sort it out with loctite and some mechanical skills - which I know many do not have. Hence my remark that I expect more gas blocks to go bust.
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Man I love how this gun looks but I have zero mechanical skills and I don't need it breaking down on me.
I also don't want to pay for the Bren or get a WK which is also riddled with issues.
Is Tavor and SL8 basically the only dummy proof reliable 5.56 guns I can get?
I also don't want to pay for the Bren or get a WK which is also riddled with issues.
Is Tavor and SL8 basically the only dummy proof reliable 5.56 guns I can get?
No, there is the Crusader Arms Templar, which I owned and which was reliable for the 360 or so rounds that I and my friends put through it. By all accounts, the Templar is sufficiently over-built that it is the reliable and durable AR-180 clone of the bunch. Priced around $2250 for the version with the TriggerTech Trigger (totally recommended), the Templar comes in considerably cheaper than the Tavor X95 at $2800 and even the SL8 at $2400 new. Something else to consider - I was happy with everything about mine except for the weight, which is more suited to a .308 than a .223 (although recoil was next to nil).
DaveMachine
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I'd go for the Tavor or the SL8 rather than the Canadian cope/meme guns.
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No, there is the Crusader Arms Templar, which I owned and which was reliable for the 360 or so rounds that I and my friends put through it. By all accounts, the Templar is sufficiently over-built that it is the reliable and durable AR-180 clone of the bunch. Priced around $2250 for the version with the TriggerTech Trigger (totally recommended), the Templar comes in considerably cheaper than the Tavor X95 at $2800 and even the SL8 at $2400 new. Something else to consider - I was happy with everything about mine except for the weight, which is more suited to a .308 than a .223 (although recoil was next to nil).
Thank you, definitely one to consider. I thought they were well over 3k for some reason.
No, there is the Crusader Arms Templar, which I owned and which was reliable for the 360 or so rounds that I and my friends put through it. By all accounts, the Templar is sufficiently over-built that it is the reliable and durable AR-180 clone of the bunch. Priced around $2250 for the version with the TriggerTech Trigger (totally recommended), the Templar comes in considerably cheaper than the Tavor X95 at $2800 and even the SL8 at $2400 new. Something else to consider - I was happy with everything about mine except for the weight, which is more suited to a .308 than a .223 (although recoil was next to nil).
Although the overbuilt nature of the Templar provides for resilience, there have been a few issues noted, most readily adjustable, as documented by Redditor MacPapRonin in his Crusader Arms Templar & Crusader 9 Maintenance Tips and Fixes post on Reddit, https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/comments/10yxu41/crusader_arms_templar_crusader_9_maintenance_tips/. One of the most critical yet easy to address issues, originally reported on CGN, is down the page a ways, so I will quote it here:
MacPapRonin said:
Question, if the barrel is not loose, would it make sense to unscrew a single screw, Loctite it, and screw in and witness, and then repeat with each in turn to keep the barrel zero if the screws have yet to loosen and the barrel is still solidly in place?
I took a look at a Siberian a couple of weeks ago in Nanaimo; liked the weight and balance but it didn't appear that the aluminum was anodized under the ceracoat.
If it is anything like the bison, some of you new Siberian owners may want to buckle up for the ride.
Has anyone pulled apart a Crusader? How is the barrel mounted and retained?
If it is anything like the bison, some of you new Siberian owners may want to buckle up for the ride.
Has anyone pulled apart a Crusader? How is the barrel mounted and retained?
The Siberian is advertised as having an anodized receiver set. Or are you referring to the handguard?
The SRV2 Siberian is a semi-automatic utility rifle from Black Creek’s SRV2 series. This rifle was designed to be an ergonomic, modular and reliable multi-use rifle for the ranch, range or backcountry. The action uses a forward captured dual spring system with a two piece short-stroke piston system. The Siberian can be used for extended field carry, so emphasis was put into reducing weight and ensuring the stock could be folded, making it substantially shorter than buffer-tube based semi-auto rifles. The result is a sleek, compact firearm that feels good both in the shoulder and when slung.
User controls are similar to the AR15 including an ambidextrous bolt release and safety lever. The Siberian charges from the left side with a non-recipricating charging handle and feeds from AR15 magazines. Stocks can be mounted directly to a universal 1913 rear pic rail or to an adapter, giving the rifle unlimited stock options.
ACTION
SEMI-AUTO SHORT STROKE PISTON
CALIBER
223 Rem
BARREL LENGTH
18.5”
TWIST RATE
1/8
RECEIVER SET
ANODIZED ALUMINUM
ACCURACY
1.2 MOA
STOCK
MAGPUL ZHUKOV. ALSO COMPATIBLE WITH 1913 PIC SYSTEM
MAGAZINE
AR15
WEIGHT
7 LBS
Siberian seems to be consistent with what BCL claims. A fb user on the group had it out last weekend and shot 3 and 5 round groups with the cheap PMC 55gr. I also asked him about his experience. 3 shot groups are MOA, 5 shot groups around 1.5 but with standard trigger and Vortex 1-8 LPVO. I say pretty impressive.
DaveMachine
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So it's probably 2moa or greater.
Who knows. Even 2 or 2.5 inch groups with PMC ammo is good. Join the fb group and call him a liar. Edit: I checked his groups again, one 5 shot group was just under 2. The 3 shot groups are all around MOA. Check yourself. Scope is Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8 LPVO.
"First day trying groups at 100M. I have only shot it indoors until today. It was a beautiful day here in Cape Breton. Was using cheap ammo, PMC Bronze .223 55 grain. I was happy with my results. 550 rounds total so far."
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If the shooter's point of aim is the same for all of those groups, and there were no adjustments made within the scope to change POI, it looks like it is printing all of that ammo into around 4-5" for 19 rounds.
I'd say that is pretty average for bang average .223/5.56 and autoloaders with 'rack-grade' barrels.
printing all of it into 2" would be very good indeed.
Curious which mag release you ordered. I'm a lefty too and would definitely put an ambi-mag release on to improve this.
We officially started the entertainment section of this thread.
lol.
Yeah, I would doubt the shooter is sighting on the center of the target in the middle of the page of 5 targets for all shots, but it is reasonable to assume that they are centering on the middle of each target for each group. Superimposed upon one another, the group looks to be 4-5".
The bottom line is there is no getting away from reality and there is no free lunch with these types of rifles.
I saw your groups in the other thread where you only used blank targets. Why is that?
Also found this:
https://bisonballistics.com/articles/optimal-group-size-for-rifles
http://ballistipedia.com/index.php?title=Range_Statistics
So 5 or 6 shot groups are widely accepted. I agree that 3 shot groups cannot be used, I have my doubts about 10 shot groups but then we have to compare all the same with the same ammunition.
