Sterling Arms International R18 Mk3 Part 1 Review - Specifications and Initial Impressions
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Are you ladies on your period or something?
ATRS had and has nothing whatsoever to do with the design of the R18 series of rifles. You may be confusing the R18 with the much earlier ATRS Modern Sporter. As no less than ATRS Shaun himself has confirmed, SAI and TSE had ATRS's permission to copy the MS platform when ATRS's production was frozen by the post -2020 OIC FRT. So yes, ATRS designed the MS which SAI briefly manufactured with ATRS permission under a different name. ATRS did not design the R18 Mk2 or Mk3. Those are attributable to the SAI design team, with input from their Turkish manufacturing partners. Those are the facts of the matter.Designer? I think ATRS had zero contraversies surrounding their store.
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Ballistically Speaking had J.R. Cox on for an interview. Regarding the MK3, he said they were waiting on a Canadian manufacturer to fix a bolt issue prior to resuming high round count testing. Only after that testing is complete are they going to release the rifles. He also stated the ergos and aesthectics of the rifle were HK inspired. Whether AKDAS or Sterling came up with using the HK inspiration is unknown , but it was obviously applied to both the MK3 and the 9 mm PCC.
As the MS is simply an AR15 that doesn't fit AR15 parts, can one really say that it was "designed"?
At least the R18 MK3 combines a number of different ideas and designs into a somewhat unique configuration. This would have taken a lot more designing than the MS.
Huh. Kind of exactly what I have been saying all along. The R18 Mk 3 takes the Gas System and Ambi Bolt Catch from HK and combines it with the Operating System of the AR-180 as evolved into the SIG MCX. SAI's design team came up with the rifle., which the Turkish engineers redesigned as a top-charger for their specific markets.
As far as the R9 is concerned, the pedigree is the reverse. AKDAS had most of their 9mm SMG already figured out when the partnership started. SAI helped them to re-work the SMG with R18 aesthetics. In addition to the external design cues, SAI redesigned the Lower Receiver to make it impossible to accept full-auto parts, specifically to bring it to market in Canada as a PCC. They (SAI) also came up with the idea of counter-boring the 18.5" Barrel to maximize 9mm velocity while meeting NR length requirements and keeping things reasonably lightweight with additional porting at the front end.
I've never proclaimed to be an expert of any sort, but both firearms trike me as solid, based on proven design elements of other highly successful platforms. Kind of like just about every other modern firearm design....
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I no longer have knees, so pads are not required. Are you really that slow, that you did not pick up on my disability along the way? What a sh#t-head....
There is clearly no hope of talking any sense to you, so I simply won't bother any further. You are truly hopeless. Rage on if you must little man, but I am tuning you out from this point forwards as you are not worth more of my time.
I was sure able to pick up on the mental disability, the physical unfortunately isn't as well conveyed in your insult filled odes to the rat. I'd rather be a #### head than someone that openly supports ####ing this community and providing false information.
I ask once again. The lower receiver which is legally a firearm in Canada is stamped with "Sterling Arms International, London, UK"
There is no trace of such company in UK I can find.
1) By nature of business (link) use code: 25400. Searched at: link to search 206 companies are known for "25400 Manufacture of weapons and ammunition", showing both active and dissolved UK companies. No such company found
2) By the full name "Sterling Arms International" (link to search) does not exist. By the name "Sterling Arms" (link to search) does not exit
3) By partial name "Sterling" (link to search) 1,262 matches found. I've manually looked through, filtering by "London". I didn't find anything close to SAI as we have stamped on the receiver.
4) I checked Canadian federal corporation search too, (link to search) I don't see any Sterling Arms as a Canadian federal corporation.
5) There is only an Alberta corporation called "STERLING ARMS INTERNATIONAL INC.", (link) since 2018.
When an out of spec bolt explodes in a rifle and takes out my fingers. Where is that mythical "Sterling Arms International, London, UK" at? Who would be liable? This #### does not work this way, ok. "STERLING ARMS INTERNATIONAL INC." Alberta provincial corp is not "Sterling Arms International, London, UK" in any shape of form. Why lower receiver is stamped this way? Why there is no UK registration or address anywhere? What the fck is this childish deception at every step of the way?
There is no trace of such company in UK I can find.
1) By nature of business (link) use code: 25400. Searched at: link to search 206 companies are known for "25400 Manufacture of weapons and ammunition", showing both active and dissolved UK companies. No such company found
2) By the full name "Sterling Arms International" (link to search) does not exist. By the name "Sterling Arms" (link to search) does not exit
3) By partial name "Sterling" (link to search) 1,262 matches found. I've manually looked through, filtering by "London". I didn't find anything close to SAI as we have stamped on the receiver.
4) I checked Canadian federal corporation search too, (link to search) I don't see any Sterling Arms as a Canadian federal corporation.
5) There is only an Alberta corporation called "STERLING ARMS INTERNATIONAL INC.", (link) since 2018.
When an out of spec bolt explodes in a rifle and takes out my fingers. Where is that mythical "Sterling Arms International, London, UK" at? Who would be liable? This #### does not work this way, ok. "STERLING ARMS INTERNATIONAL INC." Alberta provincial corp is not "Sterling Arms International, London, UK" in any shape of form. Why lower receiver is stamped this way? Why there is no UK registration or address anywhere? What the fck is this childish deception at every step of the way?
That would be Sterling Armament, who I'm eagerly awaiting their reply as if they are aware another company based in Canada is seeming to pose as them? They went bunk in 1988 but revived in 2016 but sitting dormant since. Those were the folks responsible for the Sten, AR-18, etc. The guy that bought them was a former employee, works with Boxall and Edmiston making bespoke shotguns now.
If you take 30 seconds to google things you an potentially find answers. If you reference the FRTs where all that information is actually recorded and is public, you can see where the country of manufacturer is and some of the sterling arms firearms listings are from UK.
You may be surprised at the limitations of liability as well.
You knew. Don’t try to pretend otherwise. The jab was intentional at a disabled veteran’s condition. For someone lashing out under the guise of morality, that sure was a POS thing to do.
It’s a review. Don’t like it, don’t read it. Don’t like the company, don’t buy from them. Your response to go after the poster like that? Show some class.
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The information is on armalytics which is public. You could literally try to lift the spoon to your mouth but if you need a magic airplane hand to do it for you i can.
https://www.armalytics.ca/?q=sterling arms&size=n_10_n
Anyone else need help getting answers to questions Bartok wouldnt have because hes not actually involved in the company? There has been more flak here than the deserved party ffs
Only a dbag would mock someone with a disability.
And? There is no entry for MK3 there. MK2 FRT entry is for made in Canada rifle, by "STERLING ARMS INTERNATIONAL INC." which is an Alberta provincial corporation.
Am asking what "Sterling Arms International London UK" is, as stamped on MK3 which is not made in Canada.
