Sulun SS-211, this is not your daddy's shotgun Cowboy!

I have not shot these, but have shot some Grizzly 8.5" pump guns and you are correct about noise and blast, you want top notch ear protection.
The pumps have standard length stocks , so that was not a problem, but you have to watch hand placement, when pumping them.

I am just waiting to see a video, utuber firing a heavy load one handed, some fool will try it.
i could see it as a nice carry gun in the bush. A bear 20 ft away, noise will not be a problem, could be a great help.
My hands hurt just thinking about it. ( and nose):cool:
 
brybenn said:
Awkward lol. Yes very short lop. Your thumb will be extremely close to your nose if you actually shoulder it
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You should try keeping your thumb parallel to the stock... once you get used to it you will appreciate the advantages beyond short stocks and heavy recoil..... :)
 
Can-down said:
You should try keeping your thumb parallel to the stock... once you get used to it you will appreciate the advantages beyond short stocks and heavy recoil..... :)
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Ive broke my wrist several times so i need to wrap my thumb over the stock. Any other way is painful or just doesnt work for me
Birds head and pistol gripped guns and heavy recoil dont bother me and i shoot them well.
Shooting my buddys lil ou was no issue 1 handed or held against my shoulder. I never hit my nose with my thumb but the placement is close. Its awkward as i shoot alot of more traditional styled guns
Most of our buddies who shouldered it also said it was awkward
 
brybenn said:
Ive broke my wrist several times so i need to wrap my thumb over the stock. Any other way is painful or just doesnt work for me
Birds head and pistol gripped guns and heavy recoil dont bother me and i shoot them well.
Shooting my buddys lil ou was no issue 1 handed or held against my shoulder. I never hit my nose with my thumb but the placement is close. Its awkward as i shoot alot of more traditional styled guns
Most of our buddies who shouldered it also said it was awkward
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Interesting, one of the things I like about thumb forward is it takes a bit of strain off my wrist and allows a bit more of a relaxed grip. These short stocked guns really benefit from a square to the target shoulder stance. even passed square works and putting the right foot forward also helps in that regard.
 
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Hard to explain as ive long ago forgotten the names of the bones and tendons involved but when i flatten my hand or raise my thumb the tendon that lifts the thumb and runs into my wrist along those knobby bones causes discomfort we will call it. Not really pain but an internal pressure feeling and it greatly weakens my strength in my hand. Back in my early 20s i had a measured grip in the 90s with my thumb around the back of the bar. Only low 40s with it against the shelf of my thumb. Now im long out of shape and feeling the results of all my earlier bad life choices. My phone doesnt really show the scar where the bone was exposed
 

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I sold mine because the safety didn’t seem to take much effort to disengage and I wanted to carry it bushwhacking at work, also no sling swivels but that’s an easy fix.

The short lop was annoying, and I found myself wanting slightly longer barrels (I had the model with the shorter barrels). This is more of a mental block than anything, it did have an oversized schnabel like fore end to keep your hand out of the danger zone.

Surprisingly considering the weight and short LOP recoil was not so bad. I shot it a few times one handed and it is easy to double if you limp wrist it. You are definitely awfully close to your thumb under recoil impulse when you shoot buck or slugs. I have pretty big hands though (sorry no pictures)

I only ever shot it at water bottles 10 metres away with buck and slugs, but it seemed to do fine at that, not that that is asking a lot of it.

I think the Churchill’s with a normal length of pull are probably a better buy. I figure there is no point in having barrels that are shorter than the action and buttstock when it takes down in terms of storage, but that’s just like my opinion man
 
brybenn said:
It shows as the lighter color spot on my wrist where the tendon starts to run flush with my arm thats where the discomfort occurs.
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Where there's a will.... there's a way!

For people with less damaged wrists, thumb forward is worth a try, makes running bolt and lever actions a bit quicker as well.
 
conor_90 said:
I sold mine because the safety didn’t seem to take much effort to disengage and I wanted to carry it bushwhacking at work, also no sling swivels but that’s an easy fix.

The short lop was annoying, and I found myself wanting slightly longer barrels (I had the model with the shorter barrels). This is more of a mental block than anything, it did have an oversized schnabel like fore end to keep your hand out of the danger zone.

Surprisingly considering the weight and short LOP recoil was not so bad. I shot it a few times one handed and it is easy to double if you limp wrist it. You are definitely awfully close to your thumb under recoil impulse when you shoot buck or slugs. I have pretty big hands though (sorry no pictures)

I only ever shot it at water bottles 10 metres away with buck and slugs, but it seemed to do fine at that, not that that is asking a lot of it.

I think the Churchill’s with a normal length of pull are probably a better buy. I figure there is no point in having barrels that are shorter than the action and buttstock when it takes down in terms of storage, but that’s just like my opinion man
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12.5" barrels with another 2 inches of stock would be fine by me.... and raised sights and a rail.
 
Can-down said:
Stronger safety spring would be a good suggestion for T.I. to pass along to the manufacturer.
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If Gunco is correct, and I'm guessing he is, I agree. Next range trip for me will tell...

conor_90 said:
I sold mine because the safety didn’t seem to take much effort to disengage and I wanted to carry it bushwhacking at work
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Why not install a stronger spring?
 
I made it to the range for a quick test fire & can confirm that it was the weaker spring on the safety that was the problem.

The stronger spring that Gunco installed fixed it. BANG BANG!! :rockOn: :ar15:

Get you one! So much fun!

Cheers
Jay
 
I found a shell holder that I like for my Sulun SS-211 from Allen.

It holds 3 shells & has heavy duty rubber (rather than stretchy fabric) to hold it to the shotgun.

For $15 from Cabelas, I'm happy to have extra shells easily accessible.

Not your daddy's shotgun!!! :rockOn: :ar15:

Cheers
Jay

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Jay said:
So, I hit the range...

Initial impressions are: I like the thing & didn't blow off any fingers! I can't believe Slow Joe was right, GET A SHOTGUN!

I fired about 2 dozen rounds of 2&3/4" light target loads, regular birdshot & buckshot. Fired cartridges with brass rims drop free when you invert the shotgun barrels, aluminum ones not so much... I noticed that it leaves a very healthy dent in the primers, can you say positive ignition? I also installed the mod tubes in both barrels & the patterns were reasonable forest chicken at 10 yards sort of thing... The cylinder tubes probably would have covered a barn door at point blank, but hey whatever floats your boat!

At 4.5lbs, that was enough silly boomstick for me to prove it's workable, I didn't mash my thumb into my nose (notice I tried keeping my thumb on the right side lol), the safety did not auto engage upon firing and holy cow I can actually hit something within reasonable cauterization ranges. Most impressive was the BLAST! OH MY SWEET JEBUS THIS THING IS LOUD!

So, there you have it gentlemen, I'm happy & may never shoot the thing ever again BUT I'M GLAD I HAVE ONE! LOL

Cheers
Jay

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You're doing it wrong! I mounted a green dot laser on mine and fire it from the hip. Wherever the dot shines is in the 'field of view'. :) The custom holster is a nice addition too.
 
Okay, Gents. The over under is on loan (to a highly qualified, well trained, RCMP vetted, licensed PAL holder no less), but I keep this one handy. It's the SR 410 revolver rifle. Both have the cheap green dot laser and work extremely well. The 410 is nicer to shoot, as there is less of everything (noise, recoil, pain). Paint that squirrel that's trying to nest in the garage with the green dot at 20 yards, shoot from the hip, and it's one less varmint on the woodlot. The 5 capacity cylinder, with number 6 shot, is very handy indeed. I tried shooting this thing like a rifle, holding the butt stock to my shoulder, but the side blast on one's face was not pleasant. Then I tried a red dot optic, while holding the gun single handedly at arms length like a pistol, but by the time I was able to find the red dot, and line things up with the target, about 20 minutes had passed. Just when I was ready to give up and put it back on the EE, the laser idea came to me. What an idea it was...

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The holster is very handy too. It is now my official 'walking around gun' here on the woodlot. The snap releases with a flick of the forefinger, the gun slides smoothly out of the holster, and the hammer and laser button are right there at one's thumb. Super fast. The rail is an option, but it's a must have IMO. The holster is a Wyatt Barrett, and not inexpensive at $200. Again, if you want to carry this gun around in the bush, it's a must have.Sulun 410 3.jpg Sulun 410 4.jpg
 

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