support for eddie Maurice's self defense case Please read...

And in other related news...

"5 occupants from stolen vehicle charged after Saskatchewan RCMP member fires gun"

https://globalnews.ca/news/4220292/stolen-vehicle-fire-saskatchewan-rcmp-member-fires-gun/

"The RCMP says an internal investigation will be held into the circumstances of the officer's weapon being discharged. (CBC)"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/rcmp-officer-fires-vehicle-pursuit-meadow-lake-1.4670841

Details are lacking. Could it be that maybe the RCMP think that it's now okay to shoot at thieves or was the Constable just being a 'racist'???
 
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Autolite said:
Two million gun owners in Canada! If ONLY HALF gave just one dollar we could turn the Canadian 'justice' system inside out and send a message to the degenerate filth in Ottawa that we're just not gonna take it any more.

Here's a rare opportunity to really make our voices heard (at a bargain) and we're blowing it big time! As gun owners, maybe we don't deserve to keep the dwindling privileges that we still have... :mad:
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More than half of gun owners would never give a penny because they don't think supporting the lawyer of a guy who shot someone is a better cause then, say, cancer.
 
Autolite said:
"Case for Okotoks area farmer charged with shooting trespasser delayed again"

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/rural-crime-case-for-homeowner-maurice-delayed-again

Whatever game the Crown is playing, I'm just not getting it. Perhaps they're counting on public support fading before letting it go to a jury trial...

(Next court date is 22 June)
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Of course, if the RCMP lab is... oh, unfortunately unable to complete this report in a timely fashion... well, the Prosecutor might have to come to the sad conclusion that there's no reasonable chance of prosecution.
Sorry might as well drop the matter altogether if you're going to lose on appeal (during an election year too eh).

And gee, if the charges got dropped then golly, wouldn't that be a neat convenience allowing the Crown to avoid any unpleasant political repercussions and - more importantly, not risk finding themselves losing & then having to hear every single damn criminal defence lawyer cite R. v. Maurice whenever a firearm is discharged in self-defence.
Bad cases make bad laws.
And procedural delays can make convenient exits.
 
VinnyQC said:
More than half of gun owners would never give a penny because they don't think supporting the lawyer of a guy who shot someone is a better cause then, say, cancer.
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If more than half of gun owners contributed just one dollar it would attract the attention of the MSM and it would send a huge message to Ottawa that we're not going to tolerate the government's re-victimization of rural crime victims. This issue is about far more than just supporting some guy's lawyer...
 
slim123 said:
It would be interesting to see their reply's....since we give them money...and seem to get nothing whatsoever back for it.....maybe a avalanche of emails about it, stating our concerns as well as our future support hinging on what steps they take to actually do something to really help out the firearms community and victims of crappy firearms laws....instead of just taking our money.....and doing nothing (i.e ruger magazines..etc..)
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I today received this reply from the CCFR:

"The CCFR offers legal defense insurance to cover legal costs acquired through court costs.
Any background on this story, what happened? The fundraiser page is pretty vague.
The CCFR itself does not contribute to personal campaigns such as this but does have a legal team and insurance for this very reason."

Tracey Wilson
V.P. of Public Relations
CCFR
P.O. Box 91572
RPO Mer Bleue
Ottawa, ON, K1W 0A6
1-844-243-CCFR(2237)
www.firearmrights.ca

I think it was a positive reply. I replied back telling them that I was hoping for a CCFR endorsement of the Maurice FundRazr rather than a financial contribution and I supplied more information about the case per their request. Maybe now's the time for us to get started on that "avalanche" of emails to the NFA and the CCFR...

(The NFA is at least already aware of the Eddie Maurice case. The Maurice story showed up in one of the NFA's Media Reports a few weeks ago)
 
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Autolite said:
I today received this reply from the CCFR:

"The CCFR offers legal defense insurance to cover legal costs acquired through court costs.
Any background on this story, what happened? The fundraiser page is pretty vague.
The CCFR itself does not contribute to personal campaigns such as this but does have a legal team and insurance for this very reason."

Tracey Wilson
V.P. of Public Relations
CCFR
P.O. Box 91572
RPO Mer Bleue
Ottawa, ON, K1W 0A6
1-844-243-CCFR(2237)
www.firearmrights.ca

I think it was a positive reply. I replied back telling them that I was hoping for a CCFR endorsement of the Maurice FundRazr rather than a financial contribution and I supplied more information about the case per their request. Maybe now's the time for us to get started on that "avalanche" of emails to the NFA and the CCFR...

(The NFA is at least already aware of the Eddie Maurice case. The Maurice story showed up in one of the NFA's Media Reports a few weeks ago)
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Very interested to see what the CCFR may be able to contribute.
 
Steve_B said:
Of course, if the RCMP lab is... oh, unfortunately unable to complete this report in a timely fashion... well, the Prosecutor might have to come to the sad conclusion that there's no reasonable chance of prosecution.
Sorry might as well drop the matter altogether if you're going to lose on appeal (during an election year too eh).

And gee, if the charges got dropped then golly, wouldn't that be a neat convenience allowing the Crown to avoid any unpleasant political repercussions and - more importantly, not risk finding themselves losing & then having to hear every single damn criminal defence lawyer cite R. v. Maurice whenever a firearm is discharged in self-defence.
Bad cases make bad laws.
And procedural delays can make convenient exits.
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^ This

On a similar vein ask yourself how many successful prosecutions there have been over Beowulf mags or Butler Creek 25 rounders where an actual trial has resulted in a guilty verdict?

Far safer to scare people and to punish by process.
 
josh1976 said:
Very interested to see what the CCFR may be able to contribute.
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I was thinking that they could do what they can to get the message out to their members that Eddie Maurice needs help. At least as important is sending the message to Ottawa (via the MSM) that gun owners support the home owner defending their property and opposes the government's prosecution of those who are proactive with their own security.

I was a little surprised that Ms Wilson of the CCFR was unaware of the Maurice case. Maybe a lack of exposure on the story or on the FundRazr campaign itself really is the problem reference the relatively low number of contributors...

(I don't think everyone yet fully appreciates the potential of this crowd funding thing. Just for comparison, the GoFundMe campaign for the Humboldt Broncos tragedy raised over three million dollars in just three days)
 
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stratosonic said:
Thanks.
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Maybe keep that video 'bookmarked' and/or spread it around a bit. I get the impression that nobody outside of the Prairie Provinces really knows what's going on. Anybody east of Winnipeg most certainly doesn't as evident by the protests over the Stanley verdict...
 
slim123 said:
here's another case, just happened near Brooks alberta....of course its a small story in the news, unfortunately not a small issue for the victim.......

maybe he was afraid of criminal prosecution if he made a attempt to exercise his god given right of self defense......

Seems the only right we have these days ...is to be a victim...

http://calgarysun.com/news/crime/bystander-rushed-to-hospital-after-assault-near-brooks
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Nah, it must be 'fake news'. Some are saying that we've been blowing this rural crime wave thing way out of proportion...
 
slim123 said:
It would be interesting to see their reply's....since we give them money...and seem to get nothing whatsoever back for it....
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Several days ago I had contacted the NFA and the CCFR reference an endorsement of the Maurice RundRazr campaign. I received one reply from the CCFR requesting more information on the case (to which I responded) but I have heard nothing else back from them. The NFA did not respond at at all. I was hoping that they would help promote the Maurice FundRazr by spreading the word among their respective membership.

Has anyone else here tried contacting the NFA or the CCFR about the Maurice defense fund? I'm beginning to feel that we're far more alone on this thing than I had originally thought... :(
 
slim123 said:
maybe he was afraid of criminal prosecution if he made a attempt to exercise his god given right of self defense......
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The victim just didn't understand the danger that he was in. He failed to realize that the criminals are enabled and supported by the Turdeau Liberals...
 
sailor723 said:
^ This

On a similar vein ask yourself how many successful prosecutions there have been over Beowulf mags or Butler Creek 25 rounders where an actual trial has resulted in a guilty verdict?

Far safer to scare people and to punish by process.
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Most of the time the offender is given a fine and or probation. Maurice should have taken the fine and probation in this case. No one wants to see a family man go to jail but when you slap the hand away when you are given a deal then you deserve what you get.
 
holzmeister said:
Most of the time the offender is given a fine and or probation. Maurice should have taken the fine and probation in this case. No one wants to see a family man go to jail but when you slap the hand away when you are given a deal then you deserve what you get.
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Reading your post it sounds like the case has been decided and Maurice is off to jail. Has that happened?
 
There's no 'fine and probation' for firearms offences. Mandatory firearms prohibition and seizure, and jail time to boot. Once a firearm is involved, the book gets launched, not thrown at you.

holzmeister said:
Most of the time the offender is given a fine and or probation. Maurice should have taken the fine and probation in this case. No one wants to see a family man go to jail but when you slap the hand away when you are given a deal then you deserve what you get.
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NorthernCX said:
There's no 'fine and probation' for firearms offences. Mandatory firearms prohibition and seizure, and jail time to boot. Once a firearm is involved, the book gets launched, not thrown at you.
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Actually that is not always the case. I know of several people that have been been in similar situations, 1 was shot while hunting, another with hit by a ricochet round and in the hunting situation they paid a fine and got probation. The ricochet incident was much like Maurice situation and there was only a seizure of the firearm until it was all sorted out. No fine and no probation. There are several retired barristers at the shooting club and when this was " news " they all stated that the crown would have looked into the situation and offered a plea. The accused would have paid his fine and been into his probationary period by now. The facts, as they have been stated are simple, the accused heard someone rummaging around in his vehicle from behind a locked door, safe and out of harms way he identified that there were 2 men, so he opened up the door and shot at them. At no time did he call 911, yell out to the victim that he had called police, fired a warning shot.... The fund that is being set up will only help line the lawyers pocket. I think it would be a kick in the pants if and when the bloke who was shot sues Maurice.
 
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