TAVOR vs Bushmaster ACR

Brian46 said:
^Xcr has been around much longer so obviously more owners/followers/fanboys unwilling to spend money to switch/adopt a new platform.

I had the Xcr and it was problematic, I have friends who still have them as well, all who have tried the ACR admit it is more accurate and prefer it over their Xcr. However when no àcr is around and new shooters talk to them about their Xcr it is all. Of a sudden the best ever.

I see this happen a lot with many different rifles and is really unfair to those starting out. I do my best to always tell people the negative I have experienced along with the positives. I spent too much over the years buying what someone else said was awesome only to have issues and then be told it is normal by the person who recommended it in the first place
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so true!
 
merlin1 said:
Tavor for reliability but maybe not for moa accuracy but it is a battle rifle and reliability is everything to me--stayed away from acr as bushmaster did not have a good history for company support.
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tavor is worse than bushmaster in the respect of parts availability. The ACR has aftermarket caliber conversions available
due to parts availability, the tavor not so much, you need to render you factory barrel useless and 300blk is your only option from Herron arms
 
merlin1 said:
Tavor for reliability but maybe not for moa accuracy but it is a battle rifle and reliability is everything to me--stayed away from acr as bushmaster did not have a good history for company support---but if gunsmithed then i hear it runs fine.
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what reliability issues have you had with a factory ACR that had to be "gunsmithed"
 
Brian46 said:
^Xcr has been around much longer so obviously more owners/followers/fanboys unwilling to spend money to switch/adopt a new platform.

I had the Xcr and it was problematic, I have friends who still have them as well, all who have tried the ACR admit it is more accurate and prefer it over their Xcr. However when no àcr is around and new shooters talk to them about their Xcr it is all. Of a sudden the best ever.

I see this happen a lot with many different rifles and is really unfair to those starting out. I do my best to always tell people the negative I have experienced along with the positives. I spent too much over the years buying what someone else said was awesome only to have issues and then be told it is normal by the person who recommended it in the first place
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That could be possible. I'd like to have both (ACR & XCR) if I can find a way to hide that from the wife as well. Again, one of the reviews the guy owned an ACR and preferred XCR, but again who knows. I'm also justifying my own recent purchase, although thanks to DrifterDave's advice I did go with the newer keymod version.

Either way, I just didn't like the Tavor. Mostly ergonomics. I may not like the XCR, the beauty with firearms is they don't really depreciate and I can just sell that and try an ACR. MY advice to the OP is to try both. I know after one range session the Tavor was not for me. Which is sad because I wanted it to be.
 
J_Scott said:
thanks to DrifterDave's advice I did go with the newer keymod version.
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the keymod is a definite improvement on feel and handling, I had a non keymod and it had a lot of FTF FTE issues that went unresolved after many parts and trips in for service. It was sold as a result at a severe loss.

When RA advertised the new keymod version, It was claimed that they had fixed all the previous generations failure. I almost ordered another but decided to wait and see if RA's claims were true. From what I have seen at the range and read online, the problems I experienced with the earlier generation are still there, maybe not as frequent and reduced to less rifles, but by no means eliminated.

I cant really trust a company that makes such claims.

I have personally had SL8, RFB, ACR, USC, Swiss arms, B&T, etc that have never had such a failure even once and these companies have never claimed to be issue free like RA has with each new generation/iteration.
 
the xcr is one of the rifles that i have yet to add to my collection, although it would be the 762x39 version.

but since im starting my mba in 2 months, money for firearms is gone...

i could always sell a couple of ars
 
mikethebike said:
id need a bolt, a gas system, piston, a barrel, a comp, might be close to 2k and who knows if it'll cycle reliably with ar mags.

sounds like a gamble to me
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If I were you I would consider getting in touch with Nefarious Arms in the US for a complete barrel assembly, and sourcing an Argonaughts 7.62x39 bolt, and go that route.

Mags is a mute point between the ACR and XCR as you would use the same for either.
 
onetwentyish said:
If I were you I would consider getting in touch with Nefarious Arms in the US for a complete barrel assembly, and sourcing an Argonaughts 7.62x39 bolt, and go that route.

Mags is a mute point between the ACR and XCR as you would use the same for either.
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the xcr in 762x39 uses xcr 7.62x39 mags
 
mikethebike said:
id need a bolt, a gas system, piston, a barrel, a comp, might be close to 2k and who knows if it'll cycle reliably with ar mags.

sounds like a gamble to me
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You would need a bolt, barrel, gas block, piston support, barrel nut, spacer, and handle. The rest swaps back and forth to save money and takes very little time.

The XCR and ACR can use the same magazines?

The XCR will cost you around $3500 at today's price
 
The XCR will cost you around $3500 at today's price
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I just sold a 7.62 keymod XCR a couple of months ago for $2400. Was in excellent shape and I sold it with 6 pistol mags. Deals are there just need to watch and wait.
It performed 100% BTW.
 
drifter dave said:
I just sold a 7.62 keymod XCR a couple of months ago for $2400. Was in excellent shape and I sold it with 6 pistol mags. Deals are there just need to watch and wait.
It performed 100% BTW.
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I was talking new xcr pricing. Which IMO is out of wack

I bought a new ACR not long ago and had herron convert it to 7.62x39 and am into it for roughly the same money, maybe a little less actually.
 
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