The best kept secret in optics?

The guy in the video is a moron. Clearly doesn't know what a scredriver slot is. Struggles with the word versatility. Doesn't understand reticle dimensions, as in MOA vs "millimeters" as he said. Talks about using the cap to adjust elevation when he's fiddling with the windage, which he failed to mention can also be adjusted with the cap, to mention a few. All made in China, so likely from the same line as TruGlo, Holosun, UTG, Leapers, etc etc. Junk.
 
so likely from the same line as TruGlo, Holosun, UTG, Leapers, etc etc. Junk.
I wouldn’t put Holosun in the same class as UTG or Leapers. They’re not up there with Aimpoint of course but for a low-cost “hobby level” optic they’re fine. I’ve got a couple and they’ve been fine, even on a 12 gauge shotgun.
 
IIRC, the DI brand is South Korean. For that reason, I don't believe that they are made in China, but I could be mistaken.

Their head office is in China, which means they're likely manufactured there as well.

I wouldn’t put Holosun in the same class as UTG or Leapers. They’re not up there with Aimpoint of course but for a low-cost “hobby level” optic they’re fine. I’ve got a couple and they’ve been fine, even on a 12 gauge shotgun.

Sorry, Holosun is still hobby grade junk.
 
Their head office is in China, which means they're likely manufactured there as well.



Sorry, Holosun is still hobby grade junk.

...because we all need to buy our kit with the reality that we’ll need to deploy with JTF2 at a moments notice? Holosun has served me well at the licensed range I’m allowed to shoot at with my restricted firearms. Hell, Sightmark has as well... Feel free to spend 1K on an Eotech or 2k on an ELCAN...but save your elitist gear-head attitude for elsewhere. I’ll take my extra cash and buy ammo or a couple of new guns for the safe...
 
...because we all need to buy our kit with the reality that we’ll need to deploy with JTF2 at a moments notice? Holosun has served me well at the licensed range I’m allowed to shoot at with my restricted firearms. Hell, Sightmark has as well... Feel free to spend 1K on an Eotech or 2k on an ELCAN...but save your elitist gear-head attitude for elsewhere. I’ll take my extra cash and buy ammo or a couple of new guns for the safe...

Nothing elitist about me, I simply prefer equipment that works without question. And that would mean neither Eotech nor Elcan. Feel free to buy more guns and collect, I prefer to shoot, and I can only shoot one gun at a time.
 
...because we all need to buy our kit with the reality that we’ll need to deploy with JTF2 at a moments notice? Holosun has served me well at the licensed range I’m allowed to shoot at with my restricted firearms. Hell, Sightmark has as well... Feel free to spend 1K on an Eotech or 2k on an ELCAN...but save your elitist gear-head attitude for elsewhere. I’ll take my extra cash and buy ammo or a couple of new guns for the safe...

Porsche's are not the same as Kia's, even though they will both get you from "A" to "B"
 
Holosun is amazing value for the money, amazing. And yes I have trijicon, aim point, vortex, etc. You people with your high horse opinions of war ready optics have your heads in the sand. It's fine to prefer only high-end, but to trash other brands because they aren't your elite level high speed low drag operator types? Get out of here
 
You get what you pay for. Anyone trying to tell you otherwise is just playing on the fact that you don’t know where they cheaped out. You might figure it out in time, or you might not. But if you do, you’ll wish you spent the extra bucks and got a quality made optic.
 
Their head office is in China, which means they're likely manufactured there as well.



Sorry, Holosun is still hobby grade junk.

I've won competitions with a holosun sight. Sure it's not top drawer, and I wouldn't use it on LEO gear, but it hasn't failed. It's not always about the gear, but also the person behind the gun. If you've had multiple issues with them, I understand your remarks. If Not, you're just talking out your arse...

North
 
And you know this because of personal experience, right?

I've tried a couple on others guns, they were a red dot. But they were not an Aimpoint by any stretch. Kind of strange that holosun designs their reddot to look like an Aimpoint. Almost like they want people to mistake it for an Aimpoint... I have also witnessed a few failures, not staying on and not tracking/holding zero. The mounts(factory) are quite pathetic. There's a video floating around of a guy doing a water bucket test with Holosun optics and they fail repeatedly. Here's a Canadian review about them.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/10/08/unsuitable-range-holosun-review/

For the price of some of their red dot sights and for not much more than others you could have an Aimpoint PRO. Or, save your pennies, adjust your priorities and have fewer higher quality guns and optics versus a pile of low end junk.

Holosun is amazing value for the money, amazing. And yes I have trijicon, aim point, vortex, etc. You people with your high horse opinions of war ready optics have your heads in the sand. It's fine to prefer only high-end, but to trash other brands because they aren't your elite level high speed low drag operator types? Get out of here

There's the famous line every low end product consumer uses to validate their purchase. I haven't heard anyone explain just what that means or how you apply cost to product in a proper ratio. Should a $25 red dot simply need to turn on and do nothing else to be "value for the money"? Perhaps it needs to turn on and stay on for one week to qualify? Does a $300 holosun need to turn on, stay on for weeks, AND have adjustments that work? The "value for the money" line is a polite way of saying " I know what I bought is junk, but it should be fine for what I'm doing, and I don't expect anything out of it."

You get what you pay for. Anyone trying to tell you otherwise is just playing on the fact that you don’t know where they cheaped out. You might figure it out in time, or you might not. But if you do, you’ll wish you spent the extra bucks and got a quality made optic.

Very true... Spoken like someone who might have learned that the hard way ;)

I've won competitions with a holosun sight. Sure it's not top drawer, and I wouldn't use it on LEO gear, but it hasn't failed. It's not always about the gear, but also the person behind the gun. If you've had multiple issues with them, I understand your remarks. If Not, you're just talking out your arse...

North

I haven't had issues with them, I don't use them. I've also never had an issue with any of my Aimpoints, Trijicons, or Nightforce(which I no longer have :( ). I'm glad your Holosun worked for you and you're right. The shooter is equally as important if not a little more so than the gear. But if the gear fails, the shooter is worthless. I've also seen plenty of low end optics, mounts, slings, etc fail at matches or at the range. Everything works until it doesn't. The other common saying I hear from people who buy low quality gear is precisely what you posted, "it hasn't failed" or "it hasn't failed yet" or "X number of months/years/rounds and still working". These are statements of surprise, because even they(owners) didn't expect their item to last so long.
 
I've tried a couple on others guns, they were a red dot. But they were not an Aimpoint by any stretch.
I've got $10k plus in rifles with ACOG, Aimpoint and Meprolight optics on them, and I've been a competitive shooter for more than 30 years so I know what works. I know that if you want top-level, bullet-proof quality you need to pay for it. But sometimes, you can get a good-quality optic for your "less then serious" guns (that you are not going to dump in a bucket) you can get one at a good price and not worry about it.
 
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