Apparently they are out of parts for the #4 but I think everyone agrees that it will be a tough act to follow. The Rangers just need something that will work, no scopes, no det mags, no 2oz triggers, no alu stocks that freeze your fingers, no 1/4 minute sights. It is a form of pay that the Rangers get for providing a service that everyone in Canada needs.
The New Canadian Ranger Rifle
- Thread starter Rebel Rouser
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Yeah, no doubt. This is just going to turn into a huge waste of taxpayers money when it would probably be cheaper to just contract Ruger, Remington, etc to just build a rifle. The Ruger Gunsite Scout with a synthetic stock would be perfect for the Rangers instead of Colt designing something from scratch.
antiqueguy
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- windsor ontario
nope but they can't be all that hard to locate I plan on 3d scanning the martini action though
the Ruger failed initial trials. The "Colt design" will not be something from scratch
Travis Bickle
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- Upper Lower Middle Alberta
Lets just hope that Colt designs it as practically and logically as the new C7 replacement rifle/shotgun/LV grenade launcher/computer hard drive they have been working on.........
As much as I too would love to see a new Lee Enfield being produced I don't think that will ever happen. I would think only India still has tooling for it. I'd be very surprised is anybody else held onto their tooling or if it was in decent enough shape to make anymore anyway. That only leaves a Mauser 98 action. The real sad part here is Colt Canada will simply be reinventing the wheel either way. I will bet that whatever the Rangers are given will cost in excess of $1500 per unit. All this because in a global economy we are unwilling to seek foreign builders such a Zastava to build us a rugged Mauser 98. I am certain they could have provided one for $1000 per unit and then sold 5000 more to guys on this site who would have happily bought one as well.In the end we will have wasted large amounts of money to reinvent the wheel. I would hazard a guess that what ever we end up buying will be inferior to what the Rangers have now. I can't help wondering how many good solid Lee Enfields were ground up in the '80s just to get them out of war stores. I personally saw 100's and 100's of them in boxes during my time in the service.
antiqueguy
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that tooling is old tech anyway AIA made .308 and 7.62x39 Lee Enfield's I doubt they used old tooling. old surplus that's legal to own here should be sold here
Lee Enfield
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- Republic of Alberta
The replacement should be the SP901
But that's unlikely to happen.
But that's unlikely to happen.
antiqueguy
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- windsor ontario
it needs to be non restricted and not something that will most likely not work in the cold weather
Thats what I would like to know about every project the government puts up.....
Lee Enfield
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- Republic of Alberta
The SP901 is the evolution of Colt's SCAR-H entry. I'm pretty sure it works in the cold.
- Location
- Where the sun shines
I wold not weigh my life on the reliability of an SP901 in subzero temps with a hungry polar bear nearby. I can't see the rangers, who understand such things, would ever agree to using tactical tupperware.
- Location
- Manitoulin Island
Who was sleeping at the switch when that got sneaked by the watchdogs? Must be a cabinet minister in that riding. Can you say frequent unpaid winter vacations in sunny climates?
maple_leaf_eh
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Always an interesting read whenever the Ranger rifle is mentioned. Everyone has THEIR favourite rifle and thinks it is the solution. After all they argue, the government will only screw up the contract. Then there are the nostalgists who pine for container loads of nicely wrapped parts, and perfectly specified new in the grease Lee Enfield No.4s to somehow magically appear, like cargo cults of the South Pacific. They reason that because the No.4 is good enough for their once or twice a year trip to the covered firing point, that men in extrordinary conditions can't possibly have a better knowledge than themselves. Finally, there are a scant few realists who have actually read the call for tender. They know the government is insistent on the final choice being currently commercially available, easy to maintain and capable of being supported by, yes, a government designated strategic technical entreprise that happens to be named Colt Canada. This last group know full well that the specification is for a 7.62x51 bolt action with other features and a bunch of useful accessories. Who knows what will happen to the stocks of .303BR and the condemned No.4s? Frankly, I don't really care, because the Rangers are getting a new rifle for a reason.
No it doesn't, as members of the CF the rangers could lawfully be issued full auto chain guns and surface to air missiles if that's what was deemed appropriate. A bolt gun has been specified as what's required however the legal classification is irrelevant.
