The Templar Thread, 5.56 by Crusader Arms / Spectre LTD
- Thread starter Ustauk
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Sniper_Wolf
CGN Regular
- Location
- Fraser Canyon, BC
Any indications on the how the stock is attached? Would love if it was 1913 and could pick up the stock to throw on my R18.
The stock is attached to an adapter that mounts where the buffer tube screws in (ie the lower on the Templar that comes with a buffer tube is the same as the one that comes with the ACR stock) so it will fit on a Crusader as well (if it's sold separately at some point).
DaveMachine
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- That one place with a cowboy complex
Go buy one and find out for us.
If the MCR is any indication then it will be as accurate or better than a rack grade AR.
84wh1
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
prob 1/4 MOA
Hand loads should be an honest 1 to 1 1/4 MOA, great factory ammo 1 1/2 MOA and cheap stuff around 2+.
Shooting off a bench,with a 3-15 scope.
Probably double that if shooting off hand.
So shouldn’t be any problems at 2 or 3 hundred yards.
I think that people tend to say what they think their rifle "should" group, rather than how they actually perform. Can we please see some test targets with 1 MOA handload results and 1.5 MOA premium factory ammo groups? They should ideally be 10-round groups with declared flyers, from rack-grade WK-180s and WS-MCRs. Just like I provided for the R18 Mk2 in the "Redux" thread.
I was using Hornady superformance 53 g .
Also what I use for reloading.
Sorry all I shoot is 5 round groups.
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Didn’t realize it was bumped up to 10 though.
I might still have the target at home somewhere though.
I have nothing to gain by telling lies though.
Would it still count if I did two , five round groups?
Also what I use for reloading.
Sorry all I shoot is 5 round groups.
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Didn’t realize it was bumped up to 10 though.
I might still have the target at home somewhere though.
I have nothing to gain by telling lies though.
Would it still count if I did two , five round groups?
84wh1
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
the sarcasm clearly went over your head on that one. lol
Far too many people put "accuracy" on a pedestal regardless of the firearms intended purpose. Most modern semi autos ARE NOT designed to be tac drivers. Its reality. An NO, you shouldnt expect it to shoot 1MOA simply because it was expensive.
Guy buys ANYTHING MODERN ....." meh 3000$ rifle doesnt shoot 1MOA. Its worthless overpriced crap"
Guy buys WK180 crap and shoots a miracle 1MOA group ......."meh 1500$ rifle shoots 1MOA with unicorn grade ammunition when the stars aligned. Its perfect."
Sometimes internet gun forum comments are worth drinking draino
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Not calling you a liar, just growing weary of the continuous claims of $1200 AR180 clones shooting 1 MOA with Norinco ammo all day, every day, never backed up by actual targets, with actual groupings. Sorry if I offended with my use of your specific, declared group sizes. They are siimply typical of what I frequently see claimed without evidence.
I agree 100% with what 84wh1 said in relation to people's unrealistic expectations of accuracy performance. 2 MOA is actually pretty good and is entirely acceptable for most military-style semi-autoatic rifle action and barrel combinations. Even 3 MOA is not uncommon (eg. Tavor/X95) and while "meh" it would still satisfy military specifications.
Yeah, I know exactly what your saying.
I could post all the pics but they mean squat if I’m bull ####t ing.
My experience was always with an aftermarket trigger, higher magnification optic and always benched.
I’ve never used anything but Hornady 53 vmax and 55 g Nosler BT.
Add some Varget and your set.
I wouldn’t claim any of these guns to be a true MOA gun in stock configuration, but with the right aftermarket trigger/ barrel combo it’s very doable.
